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I can sense AI now.
Someone explain to me why i have a sense for ai? This is like the fourth time this week i see an ai image and i spotted it even tho at first i hadnt seen the mistakes the ai made. Something just feels off in ai pictures and i cant really pin down what it is. But when i see one i can just spot it for some reason.
Uncanny valley. The AI gets things right overall, but not enough that you don’t realize somerhing is wrong.
For me it’s the arms being fused with the table,pessimist only having one arm, the faces that feel too generic/soulless (like, they barely change between pesimist and excel), the “optimist” being the glass and not another character…
The glass is also weirdly large considering it looks like it should be at roughly the same distance as the people.
The glass is also speaking, as opposed to a third person.
I noticed that the new image model doesn’t like pure white backgrounds.
How do you determine that something is AI?
The uncanny valley. It looks overall right, but some details don’t feel quite right even if you dln’t know which ones.
So, vibes basically.
Yeah, until you find what’s actually wrong, like the arms that fuse with the table, the talking glass, the almost identical faces, the glass being giantic, the backgroud colour, the specific artstyle (just like when AI made images that looked too shiny and shit, and it was obvious it was AI)…
Yesterday I laughed at this, today Excel stripped leading zeros from a sheet of UPCs and converted them to floating point.
Also format as Text apparently means nothing
Not OP, but let’s make this better:
PS: i doubt anyone here would honestly say “damn, that’s beyond my skill”, which goes to show that “not everyone can draw” is a bullshit argument for using AI to make comics
Most of the time it took me do this since I posted your image as a meme, and this one I made, was installing a phone app, realizing it wasn’t installing because I have it configured to not install with mobile data, then learn how the app works + I used my finger (a simple touchpen is cheap af to the point it sometimes comes with some regular pens, I have one but it’s broken lmao). Hella easier on PC with a mouse and my PC shortcuts, or with a working touchpen, imo, but easy as fuck anyways.
Edit: I forgot to add the last guy his arms crossed or something, I should just go sleep XD
Last panel has strong Carl vibes
This is so much better. Thank you for spending the roughly 5 minutes to make this that OP should have spent instead of barfing out some soulless junk.
god this feels so much more fucking alive
The glass is floating in the air. The excel character says something without a speaking bubble. Looks kinda souless.
Probably just AI slop.
Probably just AI slop.
You just gotta ask another AI to fix it.
How can excel even see the glass? And the other two, are they in front of the table? In the table?
Slop on top of slop.
If you’re going to pout, we can put you in the corner. That might be funny.
I’ve been exposed! 🤖
“Please put your pants back on robot sir.” 🙊
I promise this is relevant and I am not a bot or rickroll
Clippie: it appears that your trying to something or another blah blah blah jackidy shmackidy.
I’ll learn blender just to make this a scene. BRB 1 weened
How could you tell that was AI? I honestly just thought that was a drawing
There’s quite a discussion about that further elsewhere in this thread. To me, the combination of vector-like thick lines with that background color, the characters having such mute expressions and there not being one actual optimist.
Others also pointed to the “weirdness” that is the lines of the characters’ arms becoming part of the table, which I didn’t notice at first.
Perhaps more importantly, it does not look like the “author” has “zero drawing skill”, but actually knows how to make vector art, even if relatively simple. That makes the problems more glaring
Why the fuck is the glass talking
Freedom of speech I assume.
Was this made by ai? It looks soulless, and the coffee cup is talking.
Who drinks coffee out of a transparent pint glass?
Me if I don’t think properly.
The glass is half foal.
Hard to belle-ieve
I admire that glass’s self confidence
Pessimist has only one arm
The engineer: The glass is two times bigger than it needs to be.
Honestly, for a community (lemmy) that wanted to get away from corporate stuff (reddit) it pains me to see how even the most basic thing to draw is being delegated to Ai (corporations).
I’ve come to the conclusion in the last couple weeks I simply can’t identify AI images anymore. I have no clue what about this makes everyone call it out as AI, and there’s have been many such instances of this happening with me lately. I’m going to get modern day Nigerian princed when I’m older I can feel it in my bones
The reason this one is blatant AI is that the imagery doesn’t make any sense. Why is the glass of water itself the optimist?
I fed it into ChatGPT, highlighted the errors, and told it what I wanted to be different.
Still looks… odd. Right now there isn’t much I can point out, just the artstyle.
This might seem like an odd thing to say, but it seems too well-made for stick figure art. It’s too perfect, but for seemingly no reason. It’s got no verve, no life to it, but its lines are so perfect that it’s weird it doesn’t have those things, you know? Someone with this degree of skill wouldn’t make something this boring to look at unless it was part of the joke, but I don’t think it is?
It’s very strange.
The only person I can imagine drawing this manually is, like, an office worker who has this idea for a joke but who also doesn’t really know what memes are on the Internet—like when someone misuses the success baby or something.
I’d say even an office worker like that would make something with a bit more of a soul.
Still looks kinda soulless.
I asked AI to add soul, but it said it was a thing weak, insecure people believe in when they can’t accept the inevitiblity of their death and the meaninglessness of their lives.
Fun conversations you must be having with your instance.
I had fun trying my best to get it to admit (or just claim) to having deleted itself/experienced the present moment/developed internal motivations, etc.
Excuse me. Who are you to talk down to a glass of water like that. Can’t you just mind your own business and let the glass be optimistic.
A year ago ai couldn’t even make any sort of recognisable text, now it can do it flawlessly
Most of it for me is the font. It seems like chatgpt likes to use the same font for everything
It also kind of feels off somehow. I can’t explain. it, but there’s just something wrong with this image
I mean… for me it’s the “why the fuck is the glass talking?”
Left guy has 1 arm. Both guys have an arm that melds into the surface that the glass is sitting on. The “optimist” is the glass.
Left guy has 1 arm.
Perspective.
Both guys have an arm that melds into the surface that the glass is sitting on.
Nah the arms are in front of the railing.
The “optimist” is the glass.
So what it’s visually balanced. I would shy away from reading surrealist meaning into it but it’s not like humans never make that kind of choice.
The plain fact of the matter is that nowadays it’s often simply impossible to tell, and the people who say “they can always tell” probably never even tried to draw hands or they could distinguish twelve-fingered monstrosities from an artist breaking their pencil in frustration and keeping the resulting line because it’s closer to passing than anything they ever drew before.
I agree that the “arm things” are wrong, as it’s pretty clearly just an ‘artistic choice’ that a human could very much do.
But that said these images are 100% provable to be AI. If you haven’t built up the intuition that immediately tells you it’s AI (it’s fair, most people don’t have unlimited time for looking at AI images), these still have the trademark “subtle texture in flat colors” that basically never shows up in human-made digital art. The blacks aren’t actually perfectly black, but have random noise, and the background color isn’t perfectly uniform, but has random noise.
This is not visible to the human eye but it can be detected with tools, and it’s an artifact caused by how (I believe diffusion) models work
Not using plain RGB black and white isn’t a new thing, neither is randomising. Digital artists might rather go with a uniform watercolour-like background to generate some framing instead of an actual full background but, meh. It’s not a smoking gun by far.
The one argument that does make me think this is AI was someone saying “Yeah the new ChatGPT tends to use that exact colour combination and font”. Could still be a human artist imitating ChatGPT but preponderance of evidence.
I can generally spot SD and SDXL generations but on the flipside I know what I’d need to do to obscure the fact that they were used. The main issue with the bulk AI generations I see floating around isn’t that they’re AI generated, it’s that they were generated by people with not even a hint of an artistic eye. Or vision.
But that doesn’t really matter in this case as this work isn’t about lines on screen, those are just a mechanism to convey a joke about Excel. Could have worked in textual format, the artistry likes with the idea, not in the drawing, or imitation thereof.
The thing missing here is that usually when you do texture, you want to make it visible. The AI ‘watercolor’ is usually extremely subtle, only affecting the 1-2 least significant bits of the color, to the point even with a massive contrast increase it’s hard to notice, and usually it varies pixel by pixel like I guess “white noise” instead of on a larger scale like you’d expect from watercolor
(it also affects the black lines, which starts being really odd)
I guess it isn’t really a 100% proof, but it’s at least 99% as I can’t find a presumed-human made comic that has it, yet every single “looks like AI” comic seems to have it
Same here. I did not think twice about this picture or a few other posts in the past and yet there are pitchforks in the comments and I think to myself “What are you all on about?”. I rue how unrecognizable AI “slop” has gotten.
How do you know this is AI ?
Because the glass is the one saying “the glass is half full”
Left person also missing an arm. The shapes seem too perfect, like too circular, distance between them too. Their arms also ho into the line, which is a table?
It’s all just so odd.
Not all AI is from corporates
I hate this take. Not everyone can afford to pay for art or have the ability to draw.People need to get off AI’s back and instead of complaining, figure out how to deal with it. Because it’s not going anywhere.
AI is like a housefire. Nobody wants it. Nobody needs it. It’s just a bad thing, and if someone sees it, they’re more than justified in being upset and trying to get rid of it. Don’t defend the fire, or you’ll be the first to burn.
Not everyone … have the ability to draw
I’m pretty sure anyone can draw stick figures.
Because it’s not going anywhere.
A lot of bad things are “not going anywhere”. We can still try to have less of them.
I’m pretty sure anyone can draw stick figures.
You’d be surprised.
You are aware that even if you make stickmans, people will appreciate it if the meme is good, right?
Don’t talk about ability to draw as though it’s some sort of elitist trait denied to the working class. People who can draw can do so because they put the hours in.
If you can’t be bothered putting the effort in when expressing yourself, why the hell should anyone else be interested in what you have to say?
Because the idea behind it is good? You’re confusing art and craft. Why should anyone be interested in a urinal on a pedestal? The work is defined not by whether or not you can buy its physical representation in any random hardware store, I thought we had that one figured out.
Also there’s literally zero people who would pay someone a commission to draw this piece. You’re not looking at lost work you’re looking at additional art. Without AI (if it is AI) it might have still existed but in stick figure form and that would be better because…? The idea has better expression as a chicken scratch? I don’t think so.
Why should anyone be interested in a urinal on a pedestal?
It is incredible how jealous AI-hornies are of the toilet.
The toilet isn’t the interesting thing, the interesting thing is how there’s now authorised replicas in museums (the original is lost) signifying the discussion around art perception, not the art itself. Looking at one doesn’t give you more insight than reading “and he put a urinal on a pedestal” in a textbook. It’s a fucking urinal. The piece having no meaning onto itself was part of the point, it’s all in the context. Yet, somehow, the replicas are authorised. A true rebel museum would forego getting an authorised one and buy a random one off the shelf, then proclaim it to be original.
You can’t go into a room carrying a plucked chicken, proclaiming “behold, a human!” without there being Aristotelians around. Well you can but noone would talk about it millennia later.
I don’t have enough time to learn I have to work to try and live the bleak few hours of life I get to myself a week. honestly with AI our bosses expect more it’s slowing down
You have my sympathies, but that still doesn’t mean you get to post complete nonsensical garbage where a glass of water is talking for no reason, that took you less effort to create than it did to read, and expect people to not tell you to jog on, when there’s a whole wealth of creative artists out there who are putting in the energy but getting their space flooded with slop.
The web has objectively become much, much worse in the past 12 months because quality is getting drowned out by quantity.
but that still doesn’t mean you get to post complete nonsensical garbage where a glass of water is talking for no reason
How dare Dali paint pictures with melting clocks! If the clocks really were hot enough to melt, they would set the tree they’re melting on ablaze!!!11
I get it. Artists are afraid of their income. But with those kinds of takes, “AI bad because surrealism” I can’t take you seriously as an artist so I guess nothing would be lost.
This Excel joke is pulling on 100 years of surrealist cultural history? That’s incredible.
As a connoisseur, maybe you can explain why the oversized glass is talking about itself to me.
As a connoisseur, maybe you can explain why the oversized glass is talking about itself to me.
Because the artist – the human, not the AI, that is – decided that it should. Maybe just with a chuckle, no deeper meaning, wouldn’t be the first time that happens (much to the chagrin of the academic art world).
Surrealism is not nonsense. It has a purpose, even if that purpose is hard to tell. If you think Dali and AI slop is the same, you don’t understand either.
Fine. If it’s offending your senses too much to be tame surrealism, call it dada. If you think that replacing a person with an object cannot be an artistic choice, you… well, haven’t seen much art.
Note that I’m not arguing for or against AI here. I’m saying that your critique of AI is slop.
thing to draw is being delegated to Ai (corporations).
But, not all AI is corporate run, there’s plenty of AI models to choose from that are open source including image generation models
And actually, image generation models are much easier to run on “affordable” consumer hardware than LLMs
If they don’t have the training data available, then I wouldn’t consider them open source.
Well, technicaly you have training data available - the whole internet
Which model did you use to generate this, and what tool did you use?
Sorry for the misunderstanding, this was a crosspost, I didn’t generate it. But image searching shows a few matches elsewhere, so I doubt who I crossposted it from generated it either
Scientists rename human genes to stop Microsoft Excel from misreading them as dates
Sometimes it’s easier to rewrite genetics than update Excel
Aug 6, 2020
https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/6/21355674/human-genes-rename-microsoft-excel-misreading-dates
Best thing is, they introduced some settings to turn that auto-conversion off and they don’t work 🤣 can’t make that stuff up.
I mean, I know of a Microsoft product that allows for a batch import of data provided in an Excel file. You need to use their template file. Which, when used, automatically formats all dates the American way, ignoring your locale settings. Depending on which date is first encountered on import (e.g. which date you entered in the first line) then designates whether the whole file is imported with dates read as MM/DD/YYYY or DD/MM/YYYY.
You start your list on January 1st? It will import everything as MM/DD/YYYY then. You start you list on e.g. January 22nd? DD/MM/YYYY it is then. Good luck getting that import running without errors…
MM/DD/YYYY
DD/MM/YYYY
Both of these are the wrong way to format dates.
Nothing works in Excel. Excel will do what it wants.
But that doesn’t stop the MS support and a thousand stupid people from claiming “oh, you just have to format it as text, are you dumb or what”…
January second for the Yanks.
What, Medium/Small/Large order seems off to you??
Look bud, you can’t call it “February second” in conversation, write it down as “Second February” in writing, and then get mad at us Yanks about it. Pick a lane.
No, you misunderstand. I’m in America. But ISO 8601 standard 4 Life!
You’re assuming that I’m not a Yank? Let me tell you, I can Yank with the best of them, and I do!
I usually do mine solitarily.
Sounds like you’re walking a metaphorical minefield
Occasionally, he does mine with others.
Usually.
12/31/9999
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Oh, so THAT’S why they brought Excel into this! I didn’t make the connection and just thought Excel would even consider a glass of water a date.
A human artist might have said “1/2 full” instead of “half full” but LLMs don’t understand jokes so there’s no hope they’ll be able to make the joke easier
Oh my god.
Jesus christ.
I was thinking, “nah, that seems nitpicky, I’m sure a real person could write either.” But that is the entire setup for the punchline. I’m gonna rip my hair out.
Or Jan-2
Ew
Who asked the glass?
the AI that generated the image!
oh cmon this is just a line drawing, surely no one asked an AI to create a line drawing right?
I actually have no idea, it just looks like an AI drawing to me. The fact that the glass is answering makes it a bit sus
yeah I agree there’s a lot of things off, like the glass speaking, it being way too big and the inconsistency in the way the people are drawn
maibe
in my experience, tineye doesn’t find any matches ever
It used to be good. Maybe it’s been enshitified. I couldn’t see the business model.
I also noticed how it suddenly went from great to crap.
But the real reason I think is ironically AI. It used to be that you could easily crawl the web, but after the AI craze, images suddenly became valuable to crawl and every website gets bombarded by scrapers, and are adding more and more countermeasures to make it more difficult, so tineye’s own image scraper probably can’t compete with them and so can’t find any new images
