If the talk about Cybertrucks actually rusting in the rain is true, they will be worth less and less and less…
Correction. They are worthless. lol.
yeah, if nobody wants them, then they are worth 0 dollars net
The batteries are still expensive and good to use for anything else. So it should be 20-25k in scrap.
I live in a pretty conservative area. I might pay $15k for a brand new one.
I think its crazy that they made $800 mil worth of these cars. Who the hell thought they would sell well?
I always thought he was making them as a limited high-end run. It’s neither of those things.
Oh its gonna be limited thats for sure. But yeah I had very similar thoughts as well. Theres one cyberfuck in my town and every time I see it I can’t help but think what a fucking goober one must be to buy it
That’s 80,000 vehicles. The production capacity is 250k. Ford sold 460,000 F-150s last year.
Chrysler had an inventory of over 1 million last year, they’ve ran through that by March.
Chrysler had an inventory of over 1 million last year, they’ve ran through that by March.
That’s insane considering Chrysler hasn’t made a decent vehicle in 20+ years and the majority of them are just as big piles of shit as the cybertruck.
They don’t charge 100k
Elon underestimated how willing people were to buy a truck from a nazi.
Even people who would buy from Nazi’s still want a functional car.
These things randomly stop working, break if you drive it into a half a foot of water, have rear view mirror housings which bust off when you try to pull down the sun visor, have a single ethernet cable routing all the controls and devices so that if the connection breaks anywhere everything stops working suddenly, a shelf underneath the headlight which accrues dirt or snow as you drive until it is not serving its purpose, exterior panels which just fall the fuck off, and hardly get any mileage.
The only people who buy these are those incapable of the barest reasoning.
That’s a cool stance to take.
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Oh no… anyway
How abut: The truck is just plain ugly.
It looks like a refuse bin. Square back, low opening front.
When I worked in a lime quarry, we used a bin something like that shape to put all the crap and garbage in The a-frame had a bar across the top and the kiln truck picked it up worth its hoist and loaded it on the back, and hauled away the load to the dump.
$800 million worth is giving a lot of value to something they can barely give away. Maybe $800K worth of material after the cost of dismantling.
$800 million according to labor theory of value. 0$ million according to subjective theory of value
The $800m figure is only useful for figuring out how much Tesla was expecting to make out of it. When you factor in the development and manufacturing costs, they’re hemorrhaging money.
They really should use the number of units. If Musk cranks the price from 80k to 120k, they suddenly have $1.2B sitting there? It’s the same 10,000 ugly-ass pieces of shit.
Yeah, a better number would be how much it cost to build the fuckers. I’m assuming they also need ongoing maintenance while they sit around rusting.
There’s a reason just in time manufacturing took over the world. Storage is expensive.
You hate to see it, whomp whomp
I actually don’t hate to see it
I can, explicitly and unequivocally, state that I derive intense joy from having the privilege of seeing this.
If nobody wants them… they are not worth that amount. simple economics.
supply and demand…
This is exactly right. They’re worthless if nobody is willing to pay what’s being asked.
So what they’re “worth” is nothing.
I know i would get made fun of for this but a good price is a good price. I would pay $15,000 for one. I think most people would.
Edit 2 min later - I thought better of it. No i still wouldn’t want it. I wouldn’t trust Tesla not to hack it at some point and take it over.
yeah, for $15k USD I could buy an old Ranger or B3000 and have 5-10 years worth of fuel
cyber truck is a hard sell
You could rip the batteries out of them and use them for a solar setup. The rest could be sold for scrap.
Probably an unpopular opinion, but I’d love to take that as a project vehicle.
Batteries for home setup (on TOU plan, so it’d be nice to charge when rates are low and discharge when high).
Then slap an combustion engine in there that just acts as a power plant for the electric motors. It’d probably be biting off more than I can chew, but it sounds like a hell of a learning opportunity and tickles my engineering/tinker brain’s fancy.Of course, after blowing something up, I’d probably focus on dissecting the drive train and using them motors for something else. I’m suddenly curious what the suspension set up is like. If they’ve got some crazy high tech mag-ride system, I’ll bet that could be repurposed for another vehicle (pending Tesla proprietary protocols for connecting to ECU).
But now I’m rambling. The thoughts of what I could do with those parts though.
Ninjaedit: just took a look as some of the pondering above. I forgot how silly the interiors look, so def wouldn’t bother with attempting it as a project car.
There are a lot of videos of the frame cracking from mild outdoor use, which instantly totals the whole vehicle.
I would pay $15,000 for one.
I would pay $15k for a better vehicle. I’m not getting in The Truck That Kills You Instantly.
$15000 is rookie numbers.
I can offer $150 for one!
I would totally take one for 15k (only if its used, never from tesla itself) take the batteries out, sell those and put the frame on a truck and drive it out to an event or protest and let people smash whats left. Let people rent a sledge hammer for a bit and vent, would be a fun and very public statement. Once thats done sell it as scrap. The batteries should alone should cover the next one.
If he drops the price to about $8k and includes lifetime fast charging, I’d consider one. Of course, for $8k, there are plenty of much nicer used trucks available on the market, though.
Idunno, they seem like they’d be perpetual rotten fruit magnets. Like you’d have to hose them down a lot
Hosing it down would just accelerate the rusting
They get you coming and going!
And they actually have truck functions that trucks should have. And they aren’t completely useless if the iPad in the cab decides to not work
Boom, tardigraded!
Strip out the bad stuff and drop them in the ocean and they can become reefs for fishies and their buddies?
Strip out the bad stuff
What’s left after that?
The reef is made of negative space
Not even the body shell is not any good?
If not for the battery with a disturbing history of exploding, it would be the vehicle’s worst feature.
A hole in the air.
“Zero Emissions” has never sounded so sinister.
They have nice dashboards/screens right?
So throw the windows in? The rest is rusty metal and plastics that become microplastics
I thought the body was made from stainless steel. Maybe that ruts in the ocean too?
No it’s a thin layer of steel hot glued to a plastic shell
But also salt eats everything
So the steel basically.
“$800m”… If nobody wants them, they’re not worth anything.
If those 5 trucks had feelings they would be hurt
it cost them something to make…they arent completely valueless
cost != value
Angry Labour Value Fundamentalist Noises
Try appraising real estate for a while, it’s a strong lesson in: something is worth whatever somebody is willing to pay for it. Can be higher than cost, can be lower than cost, but the willing buyer is the key to the whole valuation equation.
something is worth whatever somebody is willing to pay for it
That’s a naive short-term approach to valuation.
Real value has to be measured in some kind of revenue generation, or - at least - cost mitigation. Otherwise what you’re describing isn’t value but expense.
the willing buyer is the key to the whole valuation equation
The willing buyer is the key to perceived value. But suckering someone doesn’t increase the utility of what you sold them.
Scrap metal. I’ll give them $100 if they run, $50 if I have to tow it.
Certainly they mean MSRP.
But think of all the time that was spent to create them! /s
“nobody wants” or 60% of Americans can’t afford basic living expenses?
Even if I could afford one, or want one, which I don’t for many reasons, the vehicle is so ginormous that it would be the biggest pain in the ass in the world to drive around my city. Parallel parking? Forget it. Narrow side streets that are the width of a car, but somehow you need to let someone come down directly towards you and it’s not a one way? Bumpy roads full of potholes or worn down to the original brick roads, with the vehicle that’s tires wear out faster than any other due to the sheer weight?
I think you get the idea
so ginormous
Tell me about it. The Cybertruck is an inch and some change longer and 8" wider than my ratty full size 1990’s pickup, yet somehow manages to have only slightly over half the usable cargo volume – 42.80 cubic feet vs. 70.7. And I’m being extremely charitable by treating the Cybertruck’s bed area as if it were cubic starting from its tallest point by the back glass, when in fact it’s wedge shaped.
It also weighs 3269 pounds more (in its lightest configuration) and as we all know by now the Cybertruck’s towing and trailer tongue weight ratings are outright lies. Whereas millions of people have successfully lugged a combined total of billions of tons worth of boats, bikes, lawn mowers, and RV’s with GM and Ford pickups over the decades.
Even for the use case for someone who “needs” a truck, the Wankpanzer is a moronic choice.
Seattle? Sounds like Seattle.
Pittsburgh PA
Why not both nobody wants them and 60% of Americans can’t afford basic living expenses?
For all we know lots of people want them but can’t afford them.
Paints two completely different scenarios from the same objective base observation that there are X amount of unsold Cybertrucks.
Why is that all you know and why are you lumping us in with you?
They’ve got ~60% more inventory than sales (6k sold).
For comparison Rivian has 400% more sales than inventory. (14k sold).
This should be plenty of data to conclude how popular the Cybertruck actually is.
Are you comparing the same time frames? Because Rivian’s sales are down 36% for Q1 2025.
I guess no one wants them either, or would a headline about Rivian invoke some other reason?
That’s my point.
Rivian didn’t over produce, and notably, didn’t go all in with the new authoritarian regime. Also, a 36% decrease in sales is much less than having $800 million (in MSRP) sitting in lots. The R1T is a very successful vehicle if you compare it to the Swastitruck.
Both.
