

My point is that the way that you stick two real numbers together to make a complex number is important, and is unintuitive if you approach it as just two real numbers.
My point is that the way that you stick two real numbers together to make a complex number is important, and is unintuitive if you approach it as just two real numbers.
I’m being combative because I don’t get how you don’t understand our argument, and because I view claims like “You keep claiming things that are objectively false” to be hostile when they stem from a misunderstanding rather than a fault on my part.
Let me restate my main point: complex numbers can be defined as vectors with the necessary rules to define various operations, such as multiplication over them and how they relate to sqrt(-1). Those additional rules are just as important to their definition as their appearance as two real-numbered values is. Both vectors and complex numbers are defined by humans, but we have chosen to give them separate definitions, because each definition includes the rules defining these operations and relationships, and they are different between the two types of mathematical object.
And, for the record, I downvoted your posts that were hostile (not all of them) and responded in kind. It’s a separate effort than trying to prove my point here.
Right, but you need to specify that additional definition. Imaginary numbers are useful because they come pre-loaded with all those additional definitions about how to handle operations that use them.
I’m reading this after lemm.ee is gone
Please read the rest of the comment
Your points don’t get better just because you coined/found a new term
There’s research in this area, I don’t feel like debating it as if it were a matter of opinion.
A math discovery unmotivated by research in other fields; just discovering math to see if it works out
I don’t think this is really an accurate way of thinking about them. Yes, they can be mapped to a 2d plane, so you can represent them with their two real-numbered coordinates along the real and imaginary axes, but certain operations with them (eg. multiplication) can be done easily with complex numbers but are not obvious how to carry out with just grid points. (3,4) * (5,6) isn’t well-defined, but (3+4i) * (5+6i) is.
Somewhat related fun fact: One of the most concrete applications for quantum computers so far is breaking some encryption algorithms.
Imaginary numbers probably, they’re useful for a lot of stuff in math and even physics (I’ve heard turbulent flow calculations can use them?) but they seem useless at first
I accept it; I enjoy most types of meat. But the fact that you can survive without meat makes it optional, which is relevant to the debate we were having about the morality of killing/harming animals for different purposes.
Yeah, it’s harder for sure. But what I’m saying is that not everyone needs to kill to eat-- if you can afford it and have some time to plan meals, it isn’t a “necessary evil”. I’d argue it’s still more moral to kill for food than for entertainment, of course.
We need things that can be found in meat. With some effort, you can obtain them from alternative sources.
You have to eat, but you don’t have to eat meat. It’s just as optional as creating art that involves animal abuse. (Not a vegan, just interested in this topic).
Erm ackshually singular “they” is centuries old now
Am I stupid? Where’s New Hampshire?