Errol Morris and Jacob Soboroff discuss their new film, “Separated,” which chronicles the Trump administration’s “Zero Tolerance” immigration policy, which separated more than 4,500 children from their parents between 2017 and 2019. 1,300 children are yet to be reunited due to incomplete information on their families, because “the idea was to avoid records,” says Morris.
it’s common knowledge that biden has extended trump’s draconian immigration laws; but you still needed a source for it? or was it that you didn’t want to believe it? is it because you don’t think biden would do something like this?
It feels like people in this country focus on labeling organizations and people as good or evil.
If the Republicans are evil, then the Democrats must be the good guys.
What we should be doing is labeling actions as evil and enforce punishments for those who do these actions; regardless of who they are affiliated with.
i’m trying to understand how you get your information since it’s literally on the tv news channels and on the radio and online; it’s even a 3 second google search way and chatgpt will give you an answer in less than a second, but you still wanted a source.
you’ve demonstrated a willingness to adjust your view with provided with evidence; but it’s on a topic with so much evidence i genuinely curious at how it didn’t reach you.
Its a bit more nuanced than that. That’s like saying “people who wear seat belts still die”. Well yes, that’s a fact, but intentionally or not, you’re making a claim without context and painting a picture in the mind of others that doesn’t reflect reality.
Under the Trump administration’s so-called “zero tolerance” policy, separations were calculated and deliberate.
The goal of zero tolerance was to criminally prosecute all adult migrants who entered the country illegally. U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) would detain parents and transfer their children into the custody of the Office of Refugee Resettlement.
“Cruelty was the point of that policy,” Langarica said.
Biden rescinded the policy in January 2021. Yet, three years later, more than 1,400 families remain separated, according to the latest update from the Family Reunification Task Force.
The report argues that separations have happened for decades, but under the Biden administration they are a result of bureaucratic processes, lack of transparency and accountability — not purposeful cruelty.
A) You didn’t read the article, and thusly come in with your usual “democrats bad” without realizing that most of the reason these people haven’t been reunited is nobody knows (because there are no records or incorrect records) with whom they should be re-united
B) We have elections in this country and “dems being in power” doesn’t mean that they’ll stay there…because they’ll leave after having lost an election.
The Dems don’t have control of every branch of government, so there’s nothing they can do. They’re powerless. Fortunately, they’re working hard to cultivate a bipartisan coalition of influential figures, such as Jeff Flake, John Negroponte, Elliot Abrams, John Bolton, and Dick Cheney. Together, we’re confident that they can retake the White House and govern from the political center, rather than deviating to the extremes like during the Donald Trump and Joe Biden administrations.
By bringing neoconservative Republicans into the big Democrat tent, we can achieve a homogeneous and irrefutable understanding of how to govern. This is the only way to reunite those 1,300 children with their families. And if you suggest to the contrary, you’re hurting Kamala Harris in her campaign to protect American democracy from a tyrant who might take power by cheating his way to victory.
So go out there and vote. And yell at anyone who doesn’t vote or votes for the wrong candidate. Anyone who doesn’t vote for Harris is responsible for those orphaned children. It’s their fault. Don’t forget it.
Ah yes, Republicans get into power, do all kinds of evil shit. Democrats get into power, but they’re “powerless” to end it.
There have been prisoners held in Guantanamo Bay without charge or trial under 2 Democrat presidents.
Unfortunately 1,300 still “so far”. People are ready to give him another crack at it.🤮
It’s actually still happening under Biden.
Got a source?
https://immigrantjustice.org/staff/blog/biden-administration-routinely-separates-immigrant-families
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Shit. The ratchet system in effect in the most grim way possible.
i’m fascinated by your exchange in this thread:
it’s common knowledge that biden has extended trump’s draconian immigration laws; but you still needed a source for it? or was it that you didn’t want to believe it? is it because you don’t think biden would do something like this?
It feels like people in this country focus on labeling organizations and people as good or evil.
What we should be doing is labeling actions as evil and enforce punishments for those who do these actions; regardless of who they are affiliated with.
Do you have a source for that?
I generally don’t take things random strangers say on the internet at face value.
i’m trying to understand how you get your information since it’s literally on the tv news channels and on the radio and online; it’s even a 3 second google search way and chatgpt will give you an answer in less than a second, but you still wanted a source.
you’ve demonstrated a willingness to adjust your view with provided with evidence; but it’s on a topic with so much evidence i genuinely curious at how it didn’t reach you.
The onus lies on the claimant. It’ll be trivial to find an obscure source saying whatever.
The fact that those children are still separated from their parents?
Last I checked, Trump isn’t president anymore.
It’s not a trump thing, it’s an american thing.
Its a bit more nuanced than that. That’s like saying “people who wear seat belts still die”. Well yes, that’s a fact, but intentionally or not, you’re making a claim without context and painting a picture in the mind of others that doesn’t reflect reality.
Source: https://www.kpbs.org/news/border-immigration/2024/07/29/report-reveals-migrant-family-separations-continue-under-biden
You can find the latest Family Reunification Task Force progress reports here: https://www.dhs.gov/publication/family-reunification-task-force-progress-reports
Why are saying that as if the dems aren’t in power right now?
Because:
A) You didn’t read the article, and thusly come in with your usual “democrats bad” without realizing that most of the reason these people haven’t been reunited is nobody knows (because there are no records or incorrect records) with whom they should be re-united
B) We have elections in this country and “dems being in power” doesn’t mean that they’ll stay there…because they’ll leave after having lost an election.
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The Dems don’t have control of every branch of government, so there’s nothing they can do. They’re powerless. Fortunately, they’re working hard to cultivate a bipartisan coalition of influential figures, such as Jeff Flake, John Negroponte, Elliot Abrams, John Bolton, and Dick Cheney. Together, we’re confident that they can retake the White House and govern from the political center, rather than deviating to the extremes like during the Donald Trump and Joe Biden administrations.
By bringing neoconservative Republicans into the big Democrat tent, we can achieve a homogeneous and irrefutable understanding of how to govern. This is the only way to reunite those 1,300 children with their families. And if you suggest to the contrary, you’re hurting Kamala Harris in her campaign to protect American democracy from a tyrant who might take power by cheating his way to victory.
So go out there and vote. And yell at anyone who doesn’t vote or votes for the wrong candidate. Anyone who doesn’t vote for Harris is responsible for those orphaned children. It’s their fault. Don’t forget it.
Ah yes, Republicans get into power, do all kinds of evil shit. Democrats get into power, but they’re “powerless” to end it.
There have been prisoners held in Guantanamo Bay without charge or trial under 2 Democrat presidents.