4G, 5G and now 6G are worthless if cell providers don’t provide enough bandwidth to the towers. The range also keeps decreasing as the generations increase, so now there are these big gaps that 3G used to cover.
In my area, 5G is slower than 4G and both have lower signal and slower speeds than 3G used to have. I need a dual SIM phone and to constantly switch my phone between AT&T and T-Mobile, and both are crap. I only use about 1GB in total too, and I’m lucky if I can pull more than 1 megabit on either service. I miss 3G speeds, coverage, and competition.
Worst of all, AT&T is forcing home users to switch to a 5G hotspot from DSL. It’s probably a big part of why the cell towers are always overloaded too. Imagine running your home internet on 1 megabit with constant drops…
That thing with 3G sounds right. I usually switch to 3G when I want faster speeds than 4G, which gets me only around 1-3Mbps during the day in my location*. If I do want even faster speeds, I have to use the internet between 1-4am when I can reach pretty nice 40Mbps.
Unfortunately, when connected to 3G of Orange in national roaming, I can only use 20GB as stated in the FUP (my carrier doesn’t offer 3G). However the carrier has confirmed they unofficially allow up to 40GB for some reason.
But that’s not enough for me. I use around 80GB per month on mobile data, but sometimes I reach up to 150GB.*In some areas with lower population (typically small villages), I get almost the maximum theoretical speeds of 75Mbps.
Yeah but eventually they upgrade plus lots of them want to remove copper if they haven’t yet and switch towers to fiber so I feel eventually it improves but yeah slower than expected.
slower speeds than 3g
wtf that’s not even possible where even country how
The infrastructure is newer, more people are switching to 5G out of necessity, and the influx of newer users is straining that infrastructure which is not prepared for it.
5G is supposed to have taken over the network frequencies of 3G (15MHz to 20MHz) from 800 MHz, 850 MHz, 900 MHz, 1,700 MHz, 1,900 MHz and 2,100 MHz bands. The problem with that is the higher the frequency used, the farther it travels through unimpeded space, but the lower it penetrates in impeeded space. 5G (1GHz to 6GHz) on the same frequency bands won’t penetrate as far in dense urban population centers with large buildings.
So yes, 5G can send more data at a faster rate. But don’t confuse bandwidth with signal clarity or penetration. Because higher frequency doesn’t always mean better operation or even better transmission. The receiver also figures into what is being transmitted. You can have the biggest array with the highest UHF and if the receiver isn’t in a place with optimal reception, or it’s not built for that input it will mean nothing. That’s the difference between Bandwidth and Frequency. https://www.pcmag.com/news/5g-is-here-but-how-it-performs-varies-widely-depending-on-where-you-live
5g home internet is not “1 megabit with constant drops” in my experience. I live in a large city in the US and on Verizon I get several hundreds down and 40-70 up depending on the time. I used to have T-Mobile which was worse, but still typically 200mbps down. There is packet loss but it is very low and not an issue. Upload is not great but much better than what the cable company offers. My parents out in the middle of nowhere were still able to get ~50-100 based on conditions. Even then, that’s a huge upgrade over most DSL services.
Pay attention to what corps oppose things like
Most want ubiquitous and affordable/cheap mobile internet without the hassle of signing contracts. Moving tech tiers past 4G isn’t relevant for consumers as of now.
Said the Phone/ISPs top earning guys while looking at their bank accounts extracts.
I need some stocks for 6g developing/manufacturing corps.
Samsung probably
Don’t ask me no clue 😅
Why don’t we just skip 6G and just go straight to 7G
If they’re going to skip anything, it’s going to be 8… Because 7, 8, 9!
I mean, you might have a point there.
If seven ate nine, but you skip eight, it’s all OK! Seven nine.
But… But… Seven ate nine.
You ate eight!
Seven nine!
Waaaahhh!
Nah dude… That’s why they skipped 9 because 7 ate it. 9 was never a viable option
They’ll skip 9 as that seems to be Kryptonite to tech. Both Microsoft and Apple decided to skip straight from 8 to 10 with Windows and iPhone respectively.
If 5g makes the frog gay would 6g negate it?
Nah this will be something related with Satan and 666 and hell and so on.
The 6 Gs of the apocalypse. G G G G G G
Gluttony, Gargoyle, Gollum, Ganesha, Gabriel, Gesus…
gg wp
It makes them trans
Nah dude, this time it’ll make the snakes gay. 7g will affect even more species, where the end goal is 10g: make the planet gay!
Well yes, since it makes the frog trans so it goes from gay to straight
yep
With 4G covering all my needs flawlessly, idk if I’d need a new gen. With a laptop, probably, but a smartphone, or even tablet? Ping across the globe is a bigger offender than speeds. Having a 2-3 sec delay when calling anyone, even though having a smooth detailed picture, is more annoying than having a 480p and an instant response. Cloud gaming suffers from it too. But that’s on ISPs, international lines, and that’s harder to change than introducing the 6G in phones and local towers.
mmwave 5g has some incredibly low latency compared to 4g. You’d be surprised how much of your latency is just from you to the tower.
Right now when it’s not busy mmwave 5g doing a speed test I have 45ms latency and 3ms of jitter. 4g is 54ms with 12ms of jitter. When the network is loaded there’s a HUGE difference. 5g can handle so many more people at once so your latency is never really that high. But when 4g is loaded down latency gets huge fast.
Ping from china to me in the US is sub 250ms on my wired internet connection so that’s not really the problem. The rest is whoever is doing your phone call.
mmWave is fine when you are out in the open but anything blocking your view basically kills the signal strength. So things like stadiums and highly trafficked streets are great for it but definitely not in a building.
The mid band 5g I’m on (Mint aka T-Mobile) has little issue hitting 500Mbps here in my house.
US2CHN? 250? Wow.
My shithole has sub 100 playing local servers when wired, and moreso when playing on EU servers, something like 2-4 whole seconds when I accidentially lobbied with people writing in hieroglyphics. All these crappy old wires from early two thousands and a lack of maintainance.
But I guess, that isn’t a problem elsewhere, and we’d both benefit from 5G based on your observation.
Silicon Valley really wants to make XR a thing.
Current tech does not need 5G and the shit that they think will need 6G is just needless XR systems that will be steaming an unjustifiable amount of data from the “cloud”.
The enshittification continues. Happy 2024 folks
When I had a Pixel 6, there was a bug that caused awful battery drain when on 5G, so I changed the preferred network setting to LTE for like a month while waiting for them to fix the issue.
It had NO effect on my regular use at all. Running speed tests showed that my max download speed was significantly slower while using LTE, but that’s obviously not indicative of real world usage. If there was any difference between LTE and 5G in terms of page loading, media streaming, etc during regular daily activities, it wasn’t perceptible.
I honestly don’t think I’d notice a real world difference between 4G and H+ in most scenarios except for, maybe, video. I never understood the hype for 5G, especially considering the horrendous frequency limitations that imply line of sight AND very small coverage radii.
We Moroccans don’t even have 5G countrywide yet, and yet you guys are already prepping for 6G? At least wait for everyone to catch up.
No, most of us don’t have 5G.
Att for instance has been telling their custumers for.2 years they were 5G but if you download a network scanner you will discover that 4G LTE is the Max that most Americans outside financial hubs have gotten.
If we did that, nothing new would ever happen. A lot of third world nations have yet to industrialize ffs
Oh.
If the carriers keep offering 10GB per month or “unlimited” plans, why I would want to spend the whole big amount in 5 seconds?
I didn’t see the point there.
From my humble POV they just want to advertise and marketing about they being the first ones in having 6G while the thing they should do it’s INCREASE THE FUCKING DATA AMOUNT, PEOPLE(ME) NEED MORE DATA NOT SPEED TO SPEND THEIR DATA IN 5 SECONDS. DUMB MFS.
The price per GB in the US is truly awful. I’m also not interested at all in higher speeds with a data plan that costs $1 per GB downloaded. Fuck that. Even in the third world it’s not hard to find internet plans that cost a fifth of the ones t-mobile, att, etc offer you.
High speeds aren’t just for you to destroy your data plan in 10 seconds.
It’s for when everyone at the same time trying to download something so they can provide a good experience in the worst case scenarios.
Every generation boosts capacity. Speed increase is just a side effect which is easy to market. 5G didn’t bring enough capacity as its roll out was too late. 6G is too late now as well. We need something like 10G and we need it yesterday.
I have no 5G where I live. Maybe it’s time to wait??
Does this mean we can do proper voice over 4G already? Last time I heard it was just for the selected phone models with specific software.
Qualcomm is erect
Just skip to 10G already.
GTA V has 9G LMAO
My wireless technology goes up to 11G
That’s just 10G but the 10 is crossed out
Yeah because 11G is higher than 10G
WE DIDN’T NEED 5G
it would be difficult to make it good
