I don’t trust most statistics coming out of China.
https://www.newsweek.com/china-hiding-population-secret-1926834
China has long been over-reporting its population, over 100 million people fewer than officially claimed, a Chinese scientist told Newsweek, a claim met with strong resistance from demography circles.
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Unlike on Reddit, you can still edit the titile. And add a source link.
This has to fall under the category of “never trust a statistic you didn’t forge yourself.” I’m confident without looking that the amorphous Western countries don’t all count suicides and attempts the same way. And for China you would have to trust official numbers or generate your own because the one thing the leadership does not like is looking bad in the international community.
The other question I would have is this ratio based on absolute numbers or per capita. The reason why I ask is that China has a massive gender imbalance, a blast from the past when the one - child policy was in play and millions of female embryos were somehow aborted. And here I would also assume that official population numbers may not be entirely correct to make the generally known problem within the country look less severe.
If there are more men in absolute numbers, there will be more male suicides, some of which one might attribute to the ripples downstream of that very same imbalance.
Whoever concluded this may have accounted for all the pitfalls in their study. And the result may be fantastically accurate. But we oughta be careful and keep more than just a few grains of salt handy when we hear about something like this.
it’s about “success” rate. Man, mostly choose more lethal form like guns, while women often choose pills. Women acctualt make most attempts than man, but are more often rescued.
I suspect in China there are cultural reason that unify the “preferred method off atempt”
It does not address the question at the core: who counted what and how? Even if we accepted it as given that men were more effective in the suicide department, which may very well be backed by all individual studies, that would not make international comparisons, the like we see in the title, any more reliable. I did not see a source for this TIL and that’s why I’m throwing heaps of salt on it.
I’m not trying to invalidate your point. I’m adding to it. It’s one more reason why this TIL don’t tell US anything useful. It nither ralible or unexpected data.
because the one thing the leadership does not like is looking bad in the international community.
Unlike western leadership, who love it…
Unlike other governments who are (more) honest.
Lol
A tankie from. ML, how original.
Tankie is when you think western governments are honest. A good reminder that the word just means “anyone to the left of the Democrats”
Women are around twice as likely to attempt suicide than men in western countries, but men are more likely to succeed by a large margin. It’s scary
And still, this statistic is used to “prove” the male loneliness crisis (which doesn’t exist).
Sure, sure, only women have societal troubles, men are just oppression machines, am I right?
Anytime a woman even mentions having an issue online, all the wannabe “equality” proponents lose their shit, but whenever men mention what problems they have, they’re just lying scumbags and deserve it anyway.
Hope you feel proud.
These fuckers have done a lot of disservice to feminism. Feminism is supposed to be about equality, not hating men. The only thing that comes from behaving like these is that these men start hating women. No one is benefitting from it, except for maybe the sexist scumbags.
I agree, being “inclusive” by excluding and berating half the population is really stupid. Egalitarian is a better term nowadays imho
The difference in the number of suicide attempts is not that bi. Men are simply much more effective :(
I believe women attempt suicide more often but men are more succesful at it. May be that for women it’s more often a cry for help where as with men once things get that bad they’re serious about it.
It’s not a cry for help. It’s esthetics. Man chose more violent methods, and women chose things that seems more gentle. Or medicine is much more sucesful in treating overdose than point-blank headshots.
