I saw a post that talked about racism towards people and when I talked about it the response I got was very heated and a person even called lemmy.world a community of ‘hitlerites’

I have been around for a week or so and this is my first time seeing such explicit vulgar reaction towards another community, is this a one-off or should I block hexbear?

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    Oh another one of these

    Short answer:

    “What if 4chan was communist instead of neonazi”

    Similar level of assholety and low post quality. Better politics. Overall don’t bother, not worth it.

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      “What if 4chan was communist instead of neonazi”

      Not quite, that would be /leftypol/

      wiki page / KnowYourMeme


      Better politics.

      This reminds me of one of their site banners:

      screenshot of a chan imageboard post with the text "What the fuck? Why does /pol/ have one or two reading lists and /leftypol/ has tons?"

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        Hexbear has its origins on Reddit’s ChapoTrapHouse which I’m pretty sure has a connection to leftypol in its history.

        But sure

        My point is:

        Hexbear = Jerkoffs, except class conscious

        Would be nice if they weren’t jerkoffs but hey, at least they have class consciousness.

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          This analysis isn’t quite accurate. On the whole, Hexbear is actually one of the kindest and coolest and community-minded places I’ve ever been on the internet. But I’d agree there’s an issue of a portion of users who happily get overly aggro if you annoy them (and being allowed to get away with it).

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      lmao the blatant transphobia “disengage with the largest trans safe space on lemmy”

      you’re so obvious

      even if one assumes your trollish comment was in good faith, it only takes a single glance at hexbears front page to see it’s filled with kindness and reason. just people having fun online while still making space for serious discussion. and again, making sure marginalized people are safe and welcome. I wonder what your real issue with the site is?

      seriously, what other site allows trans people to safely and comfortably be ourselves like this? https://hexbear.net/post/4271750

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        There is literally nothing transphohic about their comment, what the hell are you on about? People don’t like Hexbear because it’s trans-friendly, people dislike it because of their tankie politics and users that act like edgy 14 year olds.

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          when i used blahaj i was harassed by transphobic chasers. it is NOT a safe space.

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              Defending chasers attacking someone is transphobic, and you need to do some serious self-crit if you consider yourself an ally. However, elsewhere in this thread you are attacking transgender individuals and accusing them of “faking it,” so this is a pattern and not a one-off.

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        There’s 7 featured posts, which I assume are stickies made by the moderators. The 3rd post after that, so the 3rd actual popular post, is “fucking libs are still making excuses in the comments”. Such kindness and reason …

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          Funny how you don’t say anything about what that post is actually about - it’s about redditors excusing Kamala’s support for Israel. They aren’t kind to you if you defend the mass slaughter of civilians, no.

          It seems to me that showing equal kindness to oppressor and oppressed would be supporting the oppressor.

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            Deragotory language, generalization & stigmatization. It is hate speech against all liberal minded people, there is nothing kind or reasonable about it.

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              Hate speech? Is “lib” a slur now? Are liberals a protected class? It’s not “hate speech” it’s just criticism of a political position.

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                Literally got banned from a world com for using “lib” as a slur. Honestly, they’re not a protected class but they’re such idiots post election loss that it might as well be a slur. They have zero self reflection and are blaming everybody but themselves for the landslide loss of the presidency, the house, the senate, state and local government positions. Everyone else just voted wrong and hates minorities you see.

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                “A pejorative word, phrase, slur, or derogatory term is a word or grammatical form expressing a negative or disrespectful connotation, a low opinion, or a lack of respect toward someone or something.[1] It is also used to express criticism, hostility, or disregard.”

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pejorative

                So yes, it’s a slur.

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          If you think Hexbear is trans-friendly, then you’re transphobic.

          No, lol.

          Someone complaining about being harassed by transphobic chasers and you said “good”, it’s for allies.

          bruh wtf

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            Leate’s modlog is filled with homophobia and transphobia under the guise of being an ally, this is a pattern and not a one-off.

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              Many such cases tbh, so many of these types are extremely quick to accuse others of ‘faking’ their positions and it’s always projection.

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                100%. Leate in particular has a nasty habit of suicide baiting and blocking anyone who calls them out, DM harrassment, and more. The loudest complainers about Hexbear are overwhelmingly the ones who got banned for bigotry, which they think they can hide by not mentioning that factor.

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                  I’ve noticed that in .world spaces that users will bring up suicide unprompted, or call me mentally ill, only to delete their posts before moderation happens

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                    Disgusting behavior, sorry to hear that. For some reason these accounts seem to stay up despite being reported constantly.

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          That’s a bold claim. A quick look at their top communities list (one of the top 15 being explicitly a ‘community for transgender and gender diverse people’) and the first two rules of their CoC make it seem especially trans friendly.

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            one of the top 15 being explicitly a ‘community for transgender and gender diverse people’

            And as we all know if someone says they’re a certain way that makes it so!

            This level of naivete seems to be a requirement for being on .ml

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              Look, there’s no reason to disbelieve here. If they claim to be trans, and they try to have trans-friendly policies, and keep talking about trans issues, why go this route?

              Is your greater point that they’re pretending to be mostly trans as a way to use their trans-identity as a shield for criticism? If so, criticize that when they do it. The counter-argument to “you can’t criticize me because I’m trans” shouldn’t be “you’re not trans”, it should be “being trans is not a defense”. Ya follow?

              And if the argument is that hexbear want to appear more trans in order to “virtual signal”, then I’d say there’s plenty to criticize about the way they run their instance, we don’t need to try and deny anything good they do.

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              Since you’re bringing up instance stereotypes, I have to say I’m disappointed to see baseless conspiracy claims from a dbzer0 user. dbzer0 is usually decent.

              And as we all know if someone says they’re a certain way that makes it so!

              Are you implying that this active community is somehow just an elaborate hoax? Why?

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                Are you implying that this active community is somehow just an elaborate hoax?

                Oh, nice, a lack of reading comprehension as well

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              If only there was a way to verify their claim so you weren’t forced to take their word for it.

              Look, maybe you’re right. But this was one of the lamest responses to someone bringing receipts that I’ve ever seen.

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                  No, you’re right, it isn’t receipts to actually go and check to see what are the popular communities, and pale in comparison to your assertion that this is simply a case of how people sometimes misrepresent themselves, to which you provided the ironclad evidence of “trust me bro”.

                  You are truly a bastion of intellectual rigor. Bravo, sir, bravo

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          This is a very bad take. It is well-documented that Hexbear’s userbase is around 50% trans, and has a well-developed moderation team in order to protect their userbase. Discounting trans people because they disagree with you politically is in fact transphobia.

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          Transphobia is when you disagree with a liberal about anything, regardless of how much you support and respect trans people, apparently.