Abacus.ai:

We recently released Smaug-72B-v0.1 which has taken first place on the Open LLM Leaderboard by HuggingFace. It is the first open-source model to have an average score more than 80.

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    9 months ago

    I’m afraid to even ask for the minimum specs on this thing, open source models have gotten so big lately

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      Every billion parameters needs about 2 GB of VRAM - if using bfloat16 representation. 16 bits per parameter, 8 bits per byte -> 2 bytes per parameter.

      1 billion parameters ~ 2 Billion bytes ~ 2 GB.

      From the name, this model has 72 Billion parameters, so ~144 GB of VRAM

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      9 months ago

      CUDA 11.4 and above are recommended (this is for GPU users, flash-attention users, etc.) To run Qwen-72B-Chat in bf16/fp16, at least 144GB GPU memory is required (e.g., 2xA100-80G or 5xV100-32G). To run it in int4, at least 48GB GPU memory is requred (e.g., 1xA100-80G or 2xV100-32G).

      It’s derived from Qwen-72B, so same specs. Q2 clocks it in at only ~30GB.

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      9 months ago

      I think I read somewhere that you’ll basically need 130 GB of RAM to load this model. You could probably get some used server hardware for less than $600 to run this.

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        Oh if only it were so simple lmao, you need ~130GB of VRAM, aka the graphics card RAM. So you would need about 9 consumer grade 16GB graphics cards and you’ll probably need Nvidia because of fucking CUDA so we’re talking about thousands of dollars. Probably approaching 10k

        Ofc you can get cards with more VRAM per card, but not in the consumer segment so even more $$$$$$

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          Afaik you can substitute VRAM with RAM at the cost of speed. Not exactly sure how that speed loss correlates to the sheer size of these models, though. I have to imagine it would run insanely slow on a CPU.

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            I tested it with a 16GB model and barely got 1 token per second. I don’t want to imagine what it would take if I used 16GB of swap instead, let alone 130GB.

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          9 months ago

          I’m pretty sure you can load the model using RAM like another poster said. Here’s a used server under $600 that could theoretically run it: ebay.

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            9 months ago

            You would want to look for an R730, which can be had for not too much more. The 20 series was the “end of an era” and the 30 series was the beginning of the next era. Most importantly for this application, R30s use DDR4 whereas R20s use DDR3.

            RAM speed matters a lot for ML applications and DDR4 is about 2x as fast as DDR3 in all relevant measurements.

            If you’re going to offload any part of these models to CPU, which you 99.99% will have to do for a model of this size with this class of hardware, skip the 20s and go to the 30s.

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        9 months ago

        Unless you’re getting used datacenter grade hardware for next to free, I doubt this. You need 130 gb of VRAM on your GPUs

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            9 months ago

            To run this model locally at gpt4 writing speed you need at least 2 x 3090 or 2 x 7900xtx. VRAM is the limiting factor in 99% of cases for interference. You could try a smaller model like mistral-instruct or SOLAR with your hardware though.