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  • snowdrop@lemmy.zip
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    11 months ago

    I don’t know why you’d need to root in 2023. I’d stick to a secure custom OS instead that can have secure boot. Something like CalyxOS or GrapheneOS. Lineage or /e/ or something if you don’t have a pixel.

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      11 months ago
      • App manager
      • ReVanced
      • DriveDroid
      • MacroDroid or the likes
      • Backup
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        11 months ago

        Is there a disadvantage to ReVanced without root? Back in the Vanced days, I actually had less trouble with non-root on my OnePlus vs. rooted on my LG. I had to reinstall the rooted version every boot for some reason I never understood.

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          Not really. Root lets you completely replace the stock YouTube install and works without microG, but that’s about it iirc. And if you have the Play Store installed, you need to make sure it doesn’t try to “update” rooted Revanced and break things.

          I prefer the non-root version, even on rooted devices.

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          With root, YouTube URLs will open in the app by default. Without root, they won’t. Otherwise, there’s not a huge difference.

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            11 months ago

            Weird, I’ve never needed root to make that happen. I used to just disable the built-in YouTube and then set Vanced as the URL handler for YouTube URLs, and then they’d open in Vanced. Maybe that doesn’t work on every Android variant?

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          No idea. As I root everything by default, I never checked what happens without root, lol. BTW, I didn’t use ReVanced for youtube, but for a different app.

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          11 months ago

          AppManager, for instance. But, you know what? Don’t root your devices. I’ll keep rooting mine just because I can.

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            I mean hey, anything’s better the iOS lol. I don’t think rooting is a good idea, but anyone running a custom aosp ROM is an ally of mine. We custom ROM users gotta stick together!

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          AppManager, for instance. But, you know what? Don’t root your devices. I’ll keep rooting mine just because I can.

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          Sorry, I don’t know the answer. I think it’s highly unlikely since encryption makes the data unreadable but I imagine it be possible to decrypt the data from inside the phone, backup it and then re-encrypt it after restoration. Still not that sure tho so you can search the net and see if it’s doable .

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            11 months ago

            the trade between an encrypted storage and the ability of a full backup is a very bad deal. Unless you’re talking for a phone that you leave at home at all times

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      11 months ago

      For calyx and lineage: I don’t think you can call the livedisplay settings CLI without root. For example I have a 1-click widget to turn my phones RGB values to all red. Or is there a way? (Needs to be RGB, not some crappy red overlay)

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      You’re right, you don’t know why.

      Do you not need root on your pc then? I don’t on my work pc, because it’s their device. I do on my own pc’s, because they’re my devices.

      These are computers, root is part of managing things. This push away from root is Google trying to control our devices.

      Root defines whether it’s my device or it’s controlled by Google. I guess you want devices controlled by Google.

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        I have a degoogled phone without root lol, I’m running GrapheneOS. All you’re doing is opening yourself to his security vulnerabilities with root. Desktops are entirely different then phones. Everything you mentioned does not require root.