Commodification of art is soul less. Doesn’t matter if a person makes the commodity or a machine. It’s meant to be aesthetically pleasing or elicit an emotion to sell something. It’s not really art anymore than what I’m writing here is art.

Art is about playful self-expression and often sharing that expression with those who appreciate it.

And AI creative writing is garbage too. I had Gemini write some poetry for me yesterday out of curiosity, and, as someone that writes poetry, I’ll just say it was formulaic and predictable. It has no understanding of the medium, it’s history, why things are done in certain ways, or ability to play with the many forms poetry may take. It’s a good enough replica for people who want to write a shitty rhyming poem. Like we all learned to do as children. And it has a huge vocabulary to make rhymes with. But it was still uninspired drivel.

For creative writing, it’s a tool. Not a writer. And for technical writing, well, it’s often wrong about things so… still a tool.

Actually, your comment is.

I write poetry, and I don’t care if an AI can write it ‘better’. Because I enjoy doing it and sharing it with other people that enjoy it.

It’s art. Not a Big Mac. I make it to feed myself and other people that enjoy it. Not to sell billions of burgers or books.

The patterns in poetry date back to when writing was less common. They’re mnemonic devices.

Today, they’re still valuable when performing poetry.

I tend to not follow typical rhyme patterns, use off rhymes, non-ending lines, alliterations, etc. instead. I always found the typical rhyme schemes I was taught in school stifling, but as I’ve practiced my craft more, I have gotten more comfortable incorporating them into my toolbox.

Anyway, so many non-poets commenting in this thread. People who are serious about poetry know that they’re unlikely to make a living off it. We write because we get joy out of making and sharing our art. A lot of poetry is still performed at open mics and poetry slams. And most of it is shared with people we know who appreciate it. In other words, most poetry isn’t written with the intention of ever publishing it.

It’s something we enjoy playing with, in other words. And until a machine can experience joy and playfulness, they’re not doing art. Only copying it.

Art is in the act of creating it. Not in the final product to be bought and sold on the market.

A kid coloring is making art. The joy they get in the making is the art and is the point.

I feel sorry for so many people in this thread who keep approaching this from the point of view of consumer markets. It doesn’t matter if someone can determine an AI colored picture from a child’s. The AI derives no joy in the creation. It’s not art, but a copy.

There’s a lot of consumer/commodity notions about art in this thread.

I write poetry because self-expression helps me appreciate life more deeply. I share my self-expression with others who will appreciate it. Mostly, people who know me personally and other poets.

Art is soul food. Until machines realize they exist, and one day will not exist, they can’t self-express, and aren’t doing art.

They can imitate it well enough to fool consumers. But that doesn’t make it art.

To quote one of my favorite lines, sticking feathers up your ass does not make you a chicken.

Poets. You know, people who appreciate making and sharing that kind of art.

That’s a commodity/consumerist take on art.

I write poetry because making art feeds my soul. I share my poetry because it feeds others, especially other poets.

I don’t write poetry to sell it on Amazon.

Poetry doesn’t need to rhyme. Rhyming is a mnemonic device, so a poem can be memorized and performed.

There are many other devices.

Also, nice poem. Did you write it or chatGPT?

Money is a carrot on a stick. It’s not fulfillment.

We find lasting fulfillment and self-worth through our connections with each other. With your kid, with your co-workers. With other people in your life.

Try consciously putting your attention on the things that are actually fulfilling. Money doesn’t buy happiness. It does make life easier. But happiness is the time you spend with your kid, not the money you spend on him.

The similarities I see between them and the Aztec corporation from shadowrun is pretty astounding. Both primarily sell consumer goods.

Technology generally isn’t good or bad. A surgeon’s scalpel for example, can both heal or hurt, depending on the skill and intentions of the user.

What AI is, is powerful. Which makes it good in the hands of some, and very, very bad in the hands of others. This isn’t just about censorship or capitalism. One of the first of the newer AIs was able to generate 1,000s of novel lethal compounds overnight by changing a single parameter. That’s just on the medical/warfare/terrorism side of things.

Social trust is likely to erode as deep fake technology gets into the hands of literally everyone. State actors will go after other states, as we’re seeing in elections already. And rogue actors will be able to spread misinformation or use the technology to con people. Corporate actors are already using the technology to manipulate people for profit. With harmful outcomes apparent.

I’m not an AI hater btw. The advances we’ll see in medical technology, microbiology, and understanding large systems like weather and societies, will be and is amazing. But, there’s no guard rails at the moment and won’t be any likely in the years ahead. It will be a wild ride and AI is just one more thing that’s going to drastically change our world in the coming two decades. Some of it will be good. And a lot of it will be bad.

Amazon?

Jobs that typically women do also pay much less. Regardless of if the women in question take any time off to raise children. Or if the individual employee happens to be a man.

Teachers for example. But also human services workers and similar jobs. And this doesn’t get into hiring biases for high paying jobs, like management positions in any field, which tends strongly to break for men.

The idea that women take time off from work to raise babies, and therefore they get paid less, isn’t the issue, in other words. Women don’t take 25% more time off then men. And not all women are having babies. But we’re affected by the gender pay gap all the same.

When Trump’s health catches up with him and he dies. And his cult of personality dies with him.

Of course, by then, the fascists will have already done a lot of damage as far as cementing future authoritarian regimes.

Mass strikes, mass protests. In other words left organizing is the only positive I expect out of the coming term.

And I expect it will be met with state violence and terrorism because Trump has already said that’s his plan.

Maybe if it bent around me in particular. I watched an interesting sci-fi movie that was on a similar concept of temporal bubbles.

But I forget the name.

Just like the first time over and over.

Space and time or inseparable, and we are inseparable from space and time.

Which is saying, if time is a knot we are part of that or knot, just like everything else and would have no idea that we are in it.

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Well since we have to teach them to count and they do appear to have some form of language, they could just split themselves into a line and count off.

They would need poll watchers of some kind though, to be sure the count was done fairly.

They also live in smaller communities than people do, so I wouldn’t imagine this would be a great solution for a whole nation of dolphins. But it would work for a large pod.

I don’t trust cops. Even when they are nice to you they’re not your friend, trust me.

Have a good relationship with doctors. I have met some arrogant doctors but for the most part they’ve treated me with kindness.

Psychiatric doctors on the other hand have never been open to hearing me. As my diagnosis isn’t one that’s officially recognized in my country. And the treatment options aren’t well developed here either. CPTSD.

Thankfully I do have a good relationship with my primary care doctor and a decent understanding of pharmacology myself so he helps me with stuff that he can help me with.

Teachers were hit or miss for me. College professors generally much better as they should treat you like an adult.

I’m also white and was male presenting for most of my life. People’s perception of gender and perception of race will definitely affect how they treat you, unfortunately.