businessfish

i think you need to look up how supply and demand works. i’ve exhausted my “arguing with people on the internet who clearly don’t want their minds changed” time for today, so have a good one.

yeah dude vegans make up a pretty small portion of the population, so of course the meat industry hasn’t been just erased like magic. societal changes like this happen at a glacial pace and the idea is that more people become vegan over time and thus demand for those products gradually falls. even if 10% of the population went vegan, demand for those products would fall by 10% and there would be that many less animals killed for it because it would not be profitable.

to claim that it is ineffective is like claiming that eating healthy makes no difference from eating like shit after doing it for a single day and not seeing amazing results.

being vegan is literally about not supporting the meat industry, so i genuinely do not understand what you’re trying to say. that one person alone being vegan won’t make a difference? that not supporting the meat industry is the same as supporting the meat industry, which is demonstrably false? i don’t know of a more easy and effective way for a single person to make a difference than to stop supporting it altogether, and broad change starts with individuals deciding to make that change.

please explain to me how what i wrote is different from what you wrote

so you’re saying that they would just keep killing more and more animals to produce more and more meat even if nobody wanted to buy it?

they are paid because people buy the products. if nobody bought the products, there would be no money in it. are you trying to say that people would be paid to kill animals even if nobody bought animal products?

how do you think meat gets to the grocery store? someone has to kill an animal, and the person buying the meat typically pays money for it.

stuff them into a sack maybe

corporation yet again proving that if you want to be free to use your own things that you paid for on your own computer you can never trust anything that requires an internet connection to not trample all over your rights

love it very cool really vibing with the current state of software and the internet

i wouldn’t trust a company who would enable this by default to allow users to TRULY completely disable it. much like how you can only opt out of the telemetry options they allow you to.

There’s not enough of us, but I still don’t care. I refuse to pay to watch ads.

i had this conversation with my dad recently about how shitty everything is now with ads etc, and his response boiled down to “i don’t care enough”. sucks to see people being complacent in being subject to greedy corporate whims. as much as i want people with that mindset to care, i have no idea how to effectively argue against “i don’t care”.

i say something like this often in real life, but despite it being plainly observable in daily life other people still don’t agree.

it’s on all scales too, or at least it feels like it. moving everything to streaming, always online, etc. want to play a competitive video game with your friends? give a corporation root-level access to your home computer. ads everywhere some greedy ass in a suit can think to stick them whether you pay or not, yet everyone complies like this is normal and i get singled out for caring about our rights as consumers.

i love capitalism i love money

i don’t think many people would consider posts that are literally paid advertisements part of “our space”

and most are pathetic for it

i’m glad you posted about it - it’s something i, and i’m sure many other people who are struggling, tend to think about.

i think it’s generally a good thing to talk about these sorts of topics, especially ones like depression where it’s easy to get lost in your own thoughts and it can feel like you’re the only one suffering like this. i know for a fact that it helped me realize that i’m not alone and that there are ways out of the pit i found myself in, despite feeling like it would never get better and my suffering was so unique that there was no cure.

granted, commiserating alone won’t get you back to a happy baseline, but it does broadcast this to others who might not realize it: you are not alone, there are people who care, and it is not impossible to be happy again. i wish you the best.

remember: never share anything and never engage with others. keep all of your thoughts and emotions and ideas to yourself at all times. especially on the internet, a platform designed to enhance global communication!

I wonder

not saying we should worry for them, but youtube is run at a loss so they do actually need money from SOMEWHERE to maintain youtube. youtube still sucks and this is definitely not the way to win over users but thems the facts

not so much that they like to be used by companies, but that they don’t care enough to change or learn how to stop it. for most people, the idea of giving up their favorite online service because of ads or whatever other predatory anti consumer shit it implements is a little extreme.

as long as it works, the vast majority of people who are not tech-literate will just use it regardless.