I’m not sure if that’s even “in-store”, the Doordash map shows the package originally from a warehouse like in a different state 3 hours away (on June 18, one day after ordering), then they moved it overnight (late night of June 18 / early morning of June 19) to a different warehouse 2 hours away, then June 19 they sent a driver to pick it up, bring it to my house, and promptly stole it.

They could’ve just used UPS!

Then it’s just a question of “how bad is the crime actually on this commute?”

Yes this is what I afraid of. Some creepy guy hanging around the mall parking lot, seeing me, a not-so-tough looking young man with a backpack of stuff walking out of an electronic store, then waiting at a bus stop. I’m likely gonna get mugged. (Maybe I’m just being paranoid?)

A few year ago, my mom was about to deposit some money (like few hundreds, its after a holiday season where money/gift exchanges are common) to a nearby bank like 10-15 minute walk away, and someone just strong-armed grabbed her purse that also had her phone in it. The cops were all like “we’re gonna do an investigation”, I never heard about the perp getting caught.

At least if a package is stolen, you have some consumer protections, especially when the thief is the driver themselves. Getting mugged could end up with you being in the hospital + PTSD from the whole ordeal.

Oh, I was just asking because I have a BestBuy that’s like a 15 minute drive away, but would take forever to talk to and back from, while carrying the weight of the stuff you bought. I think I also have a Microcenter like 45 min to 1 hour away.

I had a recent terrible experience with Besbuy, so that’s why I can’t use their shipping anymore. (They use Doordash now, and the driver stole my laptop)

I think we could only “abolish private property” when humanity acheives post-scarcity.

If someone saw me walking out of an electronics store alone, I’d 99% get mugged if I don’t get into a vehicle quickly.

Ironically, I never had a “porch pirate”, my neighborhood is pretty chill with that, its not even a rich neighborhood, everyone here is working class. The driver, however, picked up the order from a warehouse like 2 hours away, so I’m assuming he’s not from my city. I had more drivers themselves stealing shit than just random people walking. My neighbor leaves like 5 packages on their doorsteps and didn’t come home til like 2 days later (idk where they went tbh, I don’t really talk to them), the packages were still there. They have packages on their doorsteps like few hours at a time every week, never seen anyone steal it. Maybe because its within sight of my cameras? But like, that didn’t deter that guy that stole my stuff earlier, and judging from the news, thiefs don’t seem to care if there’s a camera, they steal it anyways I guess my neighbood is just that good with not touching other people’s stuff?

What I mean is, declining a lot of offers will not (if they obey their own rules, that is) lead to a deactivation. Getting less offers is the equialent of your boss (at a traditional employment) randomly say “hey btw, your pay for tomorrow will be halved”, would you still go to work tomorrow? If you are desparate, maybe, but my point is, at some point, you have to stand up for your self. If you get paid $10/hour, for example, and your just barely have enough to survive, are you gonna work your usual 9-5 shit when you get paid $5/hour for a day?

I’m not blaming drivers, not blaming customers either. Doordash should just outright charge a delivery fee that goes to the driver, instead of this “tipping” BS that confuses both the customer and the drivers, because the vast majority of customers just assumes the drivers get paid like in traditional employment, therefore, believes they don’t need to (customarily) tip. The result is, drivers lashing out at customers, when its really Doordash’s fault for misleading everyone.

Also file a police report and let the police identify the thief from video.

Not clear enough to identify. Also, cops are highly unlikely to do anything especially if the refund happens and theb I techically wouldn’t be out of pocket for anything (besides the time wasted and mental energy drained on this issue).

Still, you should hassle the corpos, but don’t forget that the driver is the real criminal here.

Honestly, I put 50% blame on the thief, 50% blame on Bestbuy. Theft from your fellow working class people is fucked up, but BestBuy using shady delivery services is also unacceptable.

There was no option at all. Besides, this isn’t a food delivery (where the pay is shit). You can check on youtube, the payout for package delivery averages from $20-$25 per hour (well other than the fact that they don’t get health benefits like with traditional employment), total payout is shown before they accept, they could’ve just declined.

Hmm yea I get it. Btw what electronics stores are you gonna use? I don’t know where to look now.

Tbf, in-store is probably fine, just don’t do Online buying and delivery unless you have confirmation that they switched back to normal UPS or Fedex or something.

Edit: Amazon also uses independent contractors called Amazon Flex, so if you ever want to buy expensive stuff, you should turn on the OTP verification option.

They like to tax people, but only to the working class. If you are Rich? Well here’s a tax cut for you! 🤦‍♂️

Its not a food delivery, you shouldn’t need to tip, they had too high of an expectation. I searched up some youtube videos, they get an average of $20-$25 an hour if completed within the estimated time. Its similar to Amazon Flex, they get paid real money (the only dowside is, they are considered “independent contractors” therefore no healthcare and other benefits, but otherwise, it pays pretty much like a normal job). In contrast, for food delivery, base pay is $2.5 and you should tip like $5 minimum + $1 per mile distance because otherwise they wouldn’t have even minimum wage (or just don’t use the service). When they accept an offer, they can already see the estimated total payout, if they don’t like the amount (eg: if someone didn’t tip for food deliver), they should have just declined it, there is no penalty for rejecting an offer (there is a penalty for accepting, then not completing the order). They saw the whole payout for X number of packages, they shouldn’t have accepted if they didn’t like it. (Not blaming the drivers btw, just saying they should stand up for themselves and not let Doordash bully them)

The thing is, the only options I got was same-day for $9.99, or “tomorrow” for free, no other options.

Guess what, the “tomorrow” was actually 2 days later, and they still didn’t bother just using UPS.

Amazon does that, but then I’m not sure if I can trust if amazon doesn’t just sell something returned after getting used as “new”.

Manufacturer’s websites also doesn’t have a lot of discounts like Bestbuy or Amazon has.

Not sure what place to get stuff from now. Or do I have to bother asking a relative to drive me to a local BestBuy.

then you gain the extra potential illegal action due to forgery. so its a game of risk management for the drivers.

I think you are overestimating how much cops actually care. Most likely, one of these companies just files an insurance claim and that’s it. Maybe if the delivery person does it often they’ll get fired, but I haven’t seen anyone actually going to prison.

USA. Sorry for my American Defaultism 😅

A lot of companies have moved towards using Uber or Doordash for same day deliveries.

Pizza places, especially the chain pizzas places, all use Doordash now 😓. I think Dominos is the only one left near me that still has in-store drivers.

I don’t like buying stuff from Amazon, but they’re the only company I’d trust for same-day at the moment. They directly employ the delivery drivers (via Amazon Flex) so you don’t end up with issues where Doordash and Best Buy blame each other and neither takes full responsibility.

I don’t exactly “trust” amazon either, they deliver to the wrong addess all the time. But for expensive stuff, there’s an option to require a PIN, so no “deliver to the wrong address” or “place at the door and then steal it” shenanigans. That’s why they are slightly less shitty.

Also, my order for Bestbuy wasn’t even “same day”. Order was placed on June 17 for “tomorrow” (aka: June 18), then it got delayed to today, then promptly stolen.

I usually get right after they leave. But this person was clever, he went to the back so nobody would expect him.

Since he didn’t even approach my front door, and drove away, I was confused. I thought it was either (a) it required a signature and they want to skip over it and claim “resident was not there to sign” and then it would be returned and refunded, or (b) he got lost or something.

So, then I was busy checking all the front and back cameras, that’s when I saw him walking away with what appears to be a package.

I thought: Maybe that’s for a different addess because I see Amazon drivers frequently fumbling with packages, I once saw the Amazon guy placed two packages on my doorsteps, then realize one was meant for someone else, then took the extra one back to the van. At first glance at the camera footage, it looks like they stole a package, but really it was someone elses since nothing was missing or stolen from us.

So I assumed that was what was going on, mistaking a different package. There was obstructions so I couldn’t see the neighbors backdoor properly to realize that he left no packages there. I went to get it and it wasn’t there, then it clicked for me, the driver took it.

But since I had to go down a flight of stairs to get to the back door (front door is on floor 1, back door is in basement or I guess floor “-1”), even if I had known at the moment I saw him walking away I wouldn’t be fast enough to catch the guy.

Dude was clever. Since nobody usually leave their house from the back door.

Edit: As for BestBuy, I don’t think in-store is bad, its just the online store I can’t trust anymore, not with these Doordash or other similar Gig Apps they are now using.