Haha, okay so this is about emotion and your predisposition to hate Elon Musk as well as your fear of new technology.

I guess we are not actually participating in conversation anymore so I will bow out.

Good luck my safety champion. Go drive manual and ensure the world always has a person watching, because people don’t get distracted…right?

Sure, I hear you, you’ve lost faith. Sounds like this happened over years which is understandable given the prolonged timelines and failed promises. What makes you think that the system will always need to be supervised? Any new technology can experience hurdles, but can you elaborate on

several mishap and deaths

? Things may happen once in a while for a completely new technology involving vehicles and driving, but for the long term it is a necessary step to develop something that can save countless more lives. Chances are, you are either currently on, or have tried a drug or medication that has lead to numerous deaths and permanent disability during its workup and development. Did you lose faith in medicine and avoid it, or did you take the drug despite the incredibly rare risk of death?

It seems that your attitude about the current situation was formed years ago. Definitely worth a second look and seeing for yourself, as the supervising driver, if you are not yet aware of the improvement and the current state of the software.

A disaster using camera only for autopilot? Tesla FSD supervised has been successfully operating in consumer vehicles using cameras only for a couple years now. FSD software for the last several months has been performing phenomenally. If you take a ride in one it’s not hard at all to see how it could operate fully autonomously even within the next year.

This and random plugs for that fucking bovine colostrum shit. 3 slides of well known advice then slide 4 BAM “I don’t know how I ever lived with [insert condition here] until I tried this colostrum!!!”

Grayjay.app for those interested in the app he runs that YouTube is threatening him over

Have you tried it lately?

I could see a scenario where someone buys the puzzle because they like the art and what’s on it and then being disappointed they received something very different to put together. If someone wants a challenge then just don’t look at the sample image IMO.

Would it be possible to VPN to an EU address and download? Or travel to the EU and download this software?

That’s the first time I’ve heard that analogy and I love it

Wouldn’t be surprised if they manipulated the discussion around the stock as well. Bot army or admin downvotes on critical discussions, and lots of upvotes on the hype.

Me too, I think their products are exceptional for an early company. It was pumped high initially due to Tesla hype and investors Looking at their stock as the next potential Tesla (200x appreciation). That bubble passed shortly after the IPO, though, and unfortunately, Rivian had reported missing production and delivery targets for a few quarters in a row, increased expenses, like the rest of the industry, and generally not performing compared to what they told investors to anticipate.

They’ve had difficulty recovering since then and the share price is trading at about 1/10th of the IPO price.

Yeah for sure, but I say it here to imply that it would be a loss. Maybe I’m just on the hate train but I’ve not seen a true way that Reddit’s fundamentals as a company can be anything but very short term performance. I think they have a very limited time to milk their existing content, and the enshittification is not helping bring much more in.

It’s an unrelated industry, but I encourage you to look at Rivian’s IPO. Bought a couple shares for fun and small spike for a day or so then tank all the way to the ground. Mr. Spez is gonna pump and dump and run away with your cash IMO.

Only use money you are willing to lose

You have a respectable mind, and a good eye for making the points that you have been. I can tell you know a thing or two about this life and societal interplay. To be honest I’m not really interested in trying to drive any point anymore. Replying to everyone when I’m clearly the odd one out has been exhausting. Enjoy Lemmy and be seeing you!

OK so you wanna go back to it then. Let’s say your three months in on a new rental home. Landlord may be averages $100-$200 per month profit, so reasonably they’ve only collected $600 in total profit from you. AC now breaks and needs a $10,000 replacement. Who pays? Have they collected enough money from you so that you are paying for it?

At that point, you might as well start arguing that every business ever pays for things because of money, they’ve collected in their patrons. Same reason how you, assuming you’re a W-2 worker, get paid by your business. They collect a profit from the service or product they provide.

Yes, you are certainly right about that. The landlord or rehab investor making a profit was never part of my argument. Operating rentals or investing in real estate is a business like any other, and thus needs to turn a profit in order to continue operations. In order to address the point you are making, I see what you’re saying about the flow through and how that gets used to repair properties. However, you may agree that we would both look at a $10,000 capital expenditure on a new AC unit differently if we were renting a home, which is generally for shorter terms (perhaps 2 years in Austin, TX on work assignment) than resident ownership for life.

If you are not someone who needs a rental home, or a rental apartment, then don’t use one. These types of businesses exist, however because they serve a need in society, hence their ubiquity. I invite you to consider the possibility that there is a valid reason for rental homes in many situations and areas that are beneficial for the right people. Yes, there are scummy landlords and yes, the landlord intends to make a profit, but this is not always at the sole detriment society.

Red herring comment

Take the money from small projects like single family rentals and use them to fund larger projects by using leverage. That’s the only way cities and apartment buildings, or commercial spaces like shopping malls are able to be funded and built. Same as you taking money from a small thing (e.g working and saving a down payment) and using leverage to finance a new car. A profit is needed in these cases as it maintains incentive for maintaining homes and investing in the creation and rehabilitation of additional living spaces.

The primary issue right now from my best knowledge is that there simply isn’t enough supply of homes and living spaces available, leading to increased demand, and willingness to pay a higher price. Investors partially solve this issue by funding new developments and high density dwellings like apartment complexes. If you ever take an economics class, you will learn the simple truth that the value of something is only up to what people are willing to pay. If demand is lowered, people, as a whole are less likely to pay for the price being asked, and the seller will need to continue lowering, and lowering their price to find what the buyer will willingly pay. This is part of the reason that we have the consequence of high interest rates at the moment as well.

If rentals were useless they would not exist in a given market, but they serve a need.

Well, it sounds like you and I both agree that large companies like Black Rock, Zillow, and whoever else is involved in the alleged price fixing with that rent recommendation software thing are screwing society and yes, can burn to the ground.

I don’t know enough to comment on rents going up outside of them, but generally, things like this come down to both inflationary pressures and a consequence of free markets. Some states have enacted regulations capping the amount that rents can increase, others have not. I may be wrong, but it seems that your perspective on the situation is simplifying the issue to mean that landlords are squandering resources (homes/units) and extorting people without providing anything. There is still a positive result to society in providing places for people to live. A profit is needed in these cases, though, as it maintains incentive for maintaining homes and investing in the creation and rehabilitation of additional living spaces.

The primary issue right now from my best knowledge is that there simply isn’t enough supply of homes and living spaces available, leading to increased demand, and willingness to pay a higher price. If you ever take an economics class, you will learn the simple truth that the value of something is only up to what people are willing to pay. If demand is lowered, people, as a whole are less likely to pay for the price being asked, and the seller will need to continue lowering, and lowering their price to find what the buyer will willingly pay. This is part of the reason that we have the consequence of high interest rates at the moment as well.

So then who coordinates the work to get old houses fixed up? Who organizes and provides the funding, sources contractors, makes design decisions about how to best rehabilitate a home for modern use, and holds the whole project accountable for its completion?

Across the nation and most of the rest of the world both resident owners and landlord owners will fix up properties. Unlivable properties however are primarily taken on by investors and rehab-to-rent landlords. Yes, they are making a profit out of it (most of the time), but society then receives an additional livable unit in good condition, or possibly more if it is a multifamily complex.