Point is, this law was not created in service of the public. It’s just another surveillance measure. Much like Chat Control, which they’ve pushed over and over again, despite getting pushback from literally everyone around the world every time. You could have everyone in the EU sign that petition and it wouldn’t matter because it’s not for you.
You do realise that Labour were voted in as the progressive alternative on a bunch of pretty progressive campaign pledges right? The Online Safety Act and treating peaceful protesters as terrorists certainly weren’t what people voted for.
I do not realize that, I’m not from there nor do I pay attention to their politics. This was more so a call to everyone everywhere to show up at whatever booth it may be and prevent shitty policies from being considered, let alone passed.
That said, I do appreciate the info, and moreso appreciate that you archived it and linked a paywall free version. That was thoughtful.
Yeah unfortunately one vote every 4 or 5 years is not enough granularity to weigh in on specific issues. Also, politicians lie about what they will do all the time.
Showing that a large amount of people are against an action, whether by petition or protest, is one of the tools we do have.
This particular piece of legislation has been in the works for two administrations of two different parties. We’re kind of sick of both of them so I think many people will likely vote for a 3rd party the next time around. Possibly the more progressive splinter group of our 'left" party.
I hope you’re right. But in my experience, every country ends up voting for 1 of the 2 largest parties because “that other party will not get even 5%” and the whole population ends up disregarding them. And this is by design.
Honestly, I pray that you’re right and the UK people actually tells the main parties to fuck right off.
The game has been rigged.
Voting exists to stop you changing things.
It makes you believed you solved the problem
when you’ve actually accomplished nothing yet
The voting is game is lost before it began
with psychometric micro demographic targetting
they can convert money into votes with simple manipulation
it’s just a matter of which money interest push more
on their preferred option
but neither of the two choices is on your side
None of the choices in democracy are working for you
Yes there are many choices, very similar degrees of ultimately the same thing. Same thing here in Canada.
Often it’s the business elite party and the “business elite but pretending to care about the people’s interest party” and that second one is also split so the straight up business elite party has a chance to win. Followed by series of do-nothing statistically insignificant, flavour-text parties just for the impression of diversity. It’s all a little circus to give you the idea the population is in control while being completely out of the equation. It only really serves to dissipate their frustration and make them believe they’ve already done everything they could so we don’t get guillotines in the streets.
Make no mistake Fukuyama is right, this IS the end of history, there will not be any democratically elected changes unless the powerful decide change is in their interest and will maintain or increase their power.
Nothing will change until the power is physically taken away from them and history restarts.
Doesn’t stop us from continuing to push. Since they responded we got 300 000 more signatures.
Point is, this law was not created in service of the public. It’s just another surveillance measure. Much like Chat Control, which they’ve pushed over and over again, despite getting pushback from literally everyone around the world every time. You could have everyone in the EU sign that petition and it wouldn’t matter because it’s not for you.
Wouldn’t it be sick if y’all just responded on voting day?
Here’s the pitch: Do you want to prevent horrible nonsense shit from happening? Do you like money? Are you okay with people in general? Fucking vote.
You do realise that Labour were voted in as the progressive alternative on a bunch of pretty progressive campaign pledges right? The Online Safety Act and treating peaceful protesters as terrorists certainly weren’t what people voted for.
I do not realize that, I’m not from there nor do I pay attention to their politics. This was more so a call to everyone everywhere to show up at whatever booth it may be and prevent shitty policies from being considered, let alone passed.
That said, I do appreciate the info, and moreso appreciate that you archived it and linked a paywall free version. That was thoughtful.
To translate it to American, it’s a similar two party system as yours, and the UK Dems are the ones doing this.
Yeah unfortunately one vote every 4 or 5 years is not enough granularity to weigh in on specific issues. Also, politicians lie about what they will do all the time.
Showing that a large amount of people are against an action, whether by petition or protest, is one of the tools we do have.
This particular piece of legislation has been in the works for two administrations of two different parties. We’re kind of sick of both of them so I think many people will likely vote for a 3rd party the next time around. Possibly the more progressive splinter group of our 'left" party.
I hope you’re right. But in my experience, every country ends up voting for 1 of the 2 largest parties because “that other party will not get even 5%” and the whole population ends up disregarding them. And this is by design.
Honestly, I pray that you’re right and the UK people actually tells the main parties to fuck right off.
Guess you should be on the street protesting and banging down the doors of politicians then.
Your voting chose have already been scientifically proven to be meaningless, democracy is fake.
The game has been rigged.
Voting exists to stop you changing things.
It makes you believed you solved the problem
when you’ve actually accomplished nothing yet
The voting is game is lost before it began
with psychometric micro demographic targetting
they can convert money into votes with simple manipulation
it’s just a matter of which money interest push more
on their preferred option
but neither of the two choices is on your side
None of the choices in democracy are working for you
So main issue with this comment is the UK system allows for more than 2 choices.
Yes there are many choices, very similar degrees of ultimately the same thing. Same thing here in Canada.
Often it’s the business elite party and the “business elite but pretending to care about the people’s interest party” and that second one is also split so the straight up business elite party has a chance to win. Followed by series of do-nothing statistically insignificant, flavour-text parties just for the impression of diversity. It’s all a little circus to give you the idea the population is in control while being completely out of the equation. It only really serves to dissipate their frustration and make them believe they’ve already done everything they could so we don’t get guillotines in the streets.
Make no mistake Fukuyama is right, this IS the end of history, there will not be any democratically elected changes unless the powerful decide change is in their interest and will maintain or increase their power.
Nothing will change until the power is physically taken away from them and history restarts.