• Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    16 hours ago

    How so?

    Yo dad, heres the login:
    username: dad
    password: Pa$$TheP0p

    If it asks for a URL on the first screen input the following URL: https://jellyfin.domain.tld/

    If you (or a relative) can’t manage that, I’d be afraid to even let you handle a car or open a bank account.
    Can’t imagine you relative doesnt also have to create a plex account somewhere to then be invited to the plex share or input the URL to request access.

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      15 hours ago

      For the record, I fucking hate Plex.

      But this is a disingenuous simplification of where the gap is.

      Me, my brother-in-law, and friend all share our libraries with the same elderly relatives.

      The GAP is that great grandma has to log in/out between servers to find content that may or may not be on an individual server. Plex lets you search/aggregate from all sources without having to jockey credentials and servers.

      It’s not a giant ask. I heard a fucking absolutely brain-dead take that “that would require a centralized server which is against Jellyfins core ideology”.

      So, I dunno. Maybe it isn’t YOUR use case, but it’s MY use case. Doesn’t make me a shill. I’m still pissed as hell.

      But don’t fucking pretend that there is feature parity when there isn’t, and don’t accuse me of being a shill just because Jellyfin literally doesn’t support my use case. I WISH it did. I HATE PLEX.

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        15 hours ago

        You’re responding to the same disingenuous argument you see all over Lemmy made by folks whose jobs are in the IT field.

        That being said, why hate Plex? I’m sure, like me, you’re grandfathered in. Is it fucking new users? Sure. Sucks. Not everything is a battlefield, and they’ll eventually fuck me and then I will abandon them, it is what it is. But for now, the shit just always works with almost no tweaking from me. I really can’t ask for much more. Got my mom to watch The Wire because of Plex.

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          12 hours ago

          I stopped trying to use Plex years ago (like 10) when that shit was just painful… AND they wanted to charge me for the luxury of that pain.

          I’m sure it got lots better, but it left such a bad taste in my mouth at the time I’ve gone without easy media watching instead, and tried all sorts of things.

          Hopefully Jellyfin keeps improving. I’d rather donate to them every year than pay a sub to Plex.

          Glad it’s worked for you though, and I mean that. When Plex worked for me, it was pretty good.

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          11 hours ago

          I joined Plex a little at the end of 23, but only really started adding content early last year. I’m sort of glad I didn’t buy the lifetime pass, given the recent changes.

          I’ve been able to share it with so many people (including tech-unfriendly family members). I guess we’ll just have to see what happens next with Plex, unless jellyfin becomes easier to set up for us less experienced home server folks…

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        11 hours ago

        The GAP is that great grandma has to log in/out between servers to find content that may or may not be on an individual server

        What does this mean? I just have one Jellyfin server I put stuff on

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          9 hours ago

          Me, my brother-in-law, and friend all share our libraries with the same elderly relatives.

          So grandma would need to switch between all three servers to access all content.

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            8 hours ago

            Ah okay so you have multiple servers. With only one central server stuff is pretty easy

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      13 hours ago

      Assuming you set it up for SSL, and you own and manage your own domain, and they’re using a computer. Easy. So for the 10% it’s cake.

      How’s it look for the rest?

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      15 hours ago

      They won’t even get to the login screen.

      All my relatives seem to have Hisense VIDAA TVs. There’s a plex app on the store. Jellyfin would require an external device like a Chromecast or HTPC to use it.

      But now telling then it’s $3/month to watch my pirated movies? No bueno.

      And on topic, I develop a commercial app and there is no way I am dropping a rating or review on it.

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      15 hours ago

      Oh cool so you’re ok with opening ports on your server to the internet with no authentication. Good for you. Most of us with the technical knowledge of hosting a media server know better.

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        2 hours ago

        And Plex your opening 32400 not sure what your argument is.

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        15 hours ago

        What’s not authenticated? Run it through nginx and cloudflare, what exactly am I missing?

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              6 hours ago

              This is misinformation.

              I run my jellyfin behind reverse proxy and use SSO pretty well. There is a OIDC plugin for jellyfin that just works with your preferred SSO.

              Indeed Plex is easier to use, and manage all that for you, but this is self hosted community after all, there is smart people capable of running a reverse proxy and a proper SSO.

              For the others, Plex indeed is forth paying for (?).

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                15 minutes ago

                No it’s not.

                doesn’t work with auth in front of it

                The idea is putting an auth layer in a reverse proxy IN FRONT OF jellyfin. Not adding OIDC into jellyfin itself. Adding any plugin into jellyfin won’t fix the unauthed endpoints which would be the whole point of adding another layer of auth.

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              15 hours ago

              Fortunately, jellyfin loads fine behind an nginx proxy using basic auth.

              Sounds like it works fine in the scenario I was discussing.

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                15 hours ago

                Ah yes, single cherry picked sentence… Care to read the very next line? Where “unfortunately, […]”… Is that “shit doesn’t load right?” Weird.

                Do you know of any apps that support basic auth input for jellyfin? No… Weird? What did I say again?

                Oh right, I can just scroll up and read it.

                And any auth mechanism breaks EVERY app even if you implement one that doesn’t break the web UI.

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                  11 hours ago

                  I just tested and was able to get to the login page with an nginx proxy in front of jellyfin. A login attempt causes nginx to throw an error, but jellyfin itself seems fine. If I disable http basic auth, I’m able to log in and play video. This looks like an nginx configuration issue, and if I cared enough to actually get it working I’m sure it would.

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                    10 hours ago

                    Try logging in.

                    This is all you’ll see. Even if you setup a “guest” account with NO password… it’s all you’ll see. This is not a Nginx issue.

                    Edit:

                    The error appears in Jellyfins toast mechanism… so you know it’s not nginx.

                    Edit2: oh and don’t forget to downvote this comment too. I see you :)

                    Edit3: actually I just realized that you think THIS is nginx’s fault…

                    It is, but it isn’t… It requires the wss target on the server to handle it.

                    Jellyfin doesn’t do this. Nginx is passing it properly.

                    Edit4:

                    Thanks dad!

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        15 hours ago

        Oh no, Chinese hackers know I only like the first 8 seasons of The Simpsons!

        They would, I suppose, were my Jellyfin available to anyone living outside of my own state via geoblocking. You can’t even connect to it from the country I host the proxy from, not that they’d do anything if they could, all of the data shared is read-only.

        I would’ve just let my setup be open, but, like you said, most of us with the technical knowledge of hosting a media server know better.

        edit: chill with the downvotes, lads. Season 9 isn’t completely terrible.