• Ajen@sh.itjust.works
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    5 days ago

    I don’t think any cops have been drafted into police service. They also don’t go to jail if they quit their job. And I haven’t heard of police recruiters using predatory tactics and targeting disadvantaged groups. The military does, or has done, all of those things to recruit troops.

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      If you chose to go kill and uphold imperialist aggression rather than just go to jail then you are in fact a bastard

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      I don’t think any cops have been drafted into police service.

      The US (which is what this meme is focusing on) has an all-volunteer force.

      They also don’t go to jail if they quit their job. And I haven’t heard of police recruiters using predatory tactics and targeting disadvantaged groups. The military does, or has done, all of those things to recruit troops.

      There’s plenty of pro-cop propaganda and plenty of people who join the police thinking they’re going to do good. I’m sorry but at some point people have to be held accountable for their actions. Any troop that’s not a bastard and who’s actively trying to leave should understand why I call troops bastards. It was bastards who recruited them, after all, and it’s bastards keeping them there.

      In any case, people make way too many excuses for these people, and all it does is reinforce the idea that it’s ok, which leads to more people falling for that propaganda and those predatory tactics.

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        5 days ago

        Leave it to a .ml user to ignore all context…

        The US currently employs “volunteer” troops, but also requires all male citizens to register for a future draft. Many living veterans were drafted. And many others were in vulnerable situations that recruiters recognized and preyed upon. Once you join the US military, it’s a crime to quit.

        There is clearly some nuance needed when taking about US war veterans.

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          I have a question for you. If they made it a crime to leave the police until you finished a set term, would that make you object to anyone saying “ACAB?”

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          Shitlibs like you: Context matters, nuance is important! Think of those poor soldiers! You don’t truly understand what they were going through that led them to join the Kolonial Konquest and Side-Kuests “Defense” Force. The choice between them ending up in the streets or families 12000 km away ending up displaced, starved, tortured, or murdered by their own accord must’ve been real difficult!

          literally anyone else: mentions Palestine, Yemen, Libya, Syria, Sudan, etc…

          Shitlibs like you: SHOOT THEM ALL! LOCK THEM UP! NO MERCY FOR TERRORISTS! THEY ARE THE REAL IMPERIALISTS SPREADING THEIR ICKY ISLAM! KEEP ISLAMISM CONTAINED IN THEIR TERRORIST SAND TERRITORIES! THEY’RE ALL ANTISEMANTIC FANATICS!

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            Casting sweeping judgments about an entire group you’ve never personally engaged with demonstrates remarkable presumption. There’s a specific term for making such broad generalizations without firsthand knowledge, isn’t there?

            I’m curious—what profession grants you the authority to condemn others for circumstances largely outside their control? What position of moral superiority do you occupy that allows you to evaluate the character and choices of people whose lives and constraints you’ve never experienced?

            Perhaps before passing judgment so confidently, it would be worth considering the complex realities and limited options many face within larger systems not of their making.