• FelixCress@lemmy.world
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      8 days ago

      There are two sides of this coin.

      Should the rich be taxed more? Absolutely. I would personally introduce tax which keeps raising by 10% every 100k, up to 90% - irrespectively of the source of earnings so no “capital gains” gateway.

      Are some people taking the piss with benefits claims? Also absolutely yes. There was an article few weeks ago, I think in the Guardian where I think 4 benefits claimants told their stories. First one was a lady in her 50’ which used to work for a council and stopped working 30 years ago, in 90’ due to “anxiety and depression” and was never working since, relying on taxpayers - this is taking the piss.

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        8 days ago

        Even if all claims of benefit fraud were true - would it matter? You always expect some free loading on any system. I mean have you ever had a friend who doesn’t get the rounds in, why do you keep them around? I imagine its because you value them in some other way. The benefit fraud bill is low compared to the billions sitting about in tax havens and in property.

        fine they might take the piss but its ultimately better that the system is there and the money is available in a dignified way. Do you really think getting those people back to work would be helpful to the economy? They aren’t exactly going to be motivated are they? Or are you more concerned with punishment? Because that’s a different matter altogether

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        7 days ago

        Abuse of benefits systems can happen. Cutting benefits to those that need it is not the solution.

        That would require dividing a system that supports with enough human checks to make the right calls, ideally with doctors leading. The problem is, said system would cost more than the estimated 2% fraud and error that occurs so it probably isn’t worth it. If the fraud and error grows larger than that, it makes sense, but they would need to get a high quality solution right.

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          7 days ago

          Abuse of benefits systems can happen. Cutting benefits to those that need it is not the solution.

          No argument here. But the benefit system desperately needs tighting up so the benefits go to people who needy them - or we need to start discussing universal income idea instead.