• JackbyDev@programming.dev
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      6 months ago

      They’re called direct messages, not private messages. They’re not tricking anyone into thinking anything lmao

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        6 months ago

        No, but the entire point of renaming Private Messages to Direct Messages was exclusively so people would have the mindset you do.

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          Umm… People have been using the phrase “Direct message (DM) me” since forever in the game and online comms world. Private message wasn’t a concept until after DMs were later encrypted. And we always knew, that if we didn’t control the servers, even encrypted, those messages were subject the server operators.

          Your logic is giving me the impression that you’re younger and didn’t go through these experiences.

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            Actually I am not younger, DM’s had always been Private Messages to me up until Facebook/MySpace and more people began flocking to the internet.

          • JackbyDev@programming.dev
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            6 months ago

            No, the term PM has been around before DM was the norm. Forums generally used the term PM. Ironically, not remembering PMs being the term prior to DM is making me think you’re younger for not remembering it.

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              You’re right. Had to dig into my memory for this one and fact check myself.

              IRC, BBS, and most forums (of the era) used PM or SP. MUCKs and a few other tools used Whisper. ICQ introduced “IM me”. Part of me remebers using the term “DM” for IRC messages, but I used IRC fairly regularly well into the 2010s.

              However, the forum I spent a ton of my younger years on used “Direct Messages” which has likely polluted my memory. Since it was a technology related forum, that was probabaly a customization from the operator to distance everyone from the idea of “private” since everything was clear-text and unencrypted back then. That or I’m confusing “IM me” from the ICQ/AIM/MSN days.

              Point being, nobody thought “PM” meant secure and not visible to the server operators back then. It just meant that only you, the recipient, server operators, and 1337 h4xx0rz could see your messages.

              What a trip down edited memory lane that was. Thanks for fact checking me.

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          6 months ago

          I have never been under the impression PMs were unreadable by the people operating the service I send them on.

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            6 months ago

            Neither have I. Generally if I want the impression of it being private, it will need to be encrypted and a whole skew of other criteria comes in. Still doesn’t change the fact that growing up they were referred to as “PM’s” for the first half of my life.

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      6 months ago

      Lol wut, they never claimed servers were independently controlled. Maybe you just didn’t look into what you were signing up for.

      When you go use different servers on Minecraft realms are you under any impression those are not controlled by Microsoft?

      When you choose a different server on World of Warcraft do you think it’s a non-blizzard server?..

      Like just because you put yourself into a state of bad false assumptions didn’t mean they tried to trick you. People have been saying this about discord from the beginning you just never cared to look.

      Did you actually think this or are you just inventing a person in your mind that this has happened to? Lol

      • JackbyDev@programming.dev
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        6 months ago

        They’re called servers in the UI though. Also, confusingly, there is a new feature coming called guilds.