The complementary lawsuits claim that the massacre in 2022 was made possible by tech giants, a local gun shop, and the gunman’s parents.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/3320637

YouTube and Reddit are sued for allegedly enabling the racist mass shooting in Buffalo that left 10 dead::The complementary lawsuits claim that the massacre in 2022 was made possible by tech giants, a local gun shop, and the gunman’s parents.

  • PutangInaMo@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1710·
    1 year ago

    Are you suggesting “banning guns”? If so, genuine curiosity, how would you go about doing it?

    • Petter1@lemm.eeEnglish
      106·
      1 year ago

      I guess a good start would be document gun holders digitally and not on a pile of paper where nobody finds anything and has water damage. Another approach would be not having guns sold in the supermarket. Furthermore, you could ban ads for guns and make it very hard to buy heavy stuff used only in war zone. And lastly restrict who and how weapons are allowed to be transported on man. Of course, one has to have a valid reason to have a weapon on them. Going shopping with a gun out of fear is mot a reason.

      First we have to stop bringing new weapons to people, than we can think about collecting

      I’m Swiss, we have nearly as many private weapons per household as Americans have, but we have way less shootings, all the things above apply here and I think it kinda works.

      • 30mag@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        Nearly all of your suggestions are already part of New York state law.

        Exceptions:

        No registration required for non-“assault weapon” long guns.

        Of course, one has to have a valid reason to have a weapon on them. Going shopping with a gun out of fear is mot a reason.

        Open carry in New York is not legal. Concealed carry requires a license. I believe that requiring a reason to carry for obtaining a license to carry was recently ruled unconstitutional. I don’t know whether you can legally require a reason for the act of carrying the gun.

        • Petter1@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          It seems like New York goes in the right direction then, nice to see! I bet one sees the difference in the statistics for gun violence compared to other states of America. Umm, is NY a state or a city or both? 😂 not so sure right now

            • Petter1@lemm.eeEnglish
              1·
              1 year ago

              If you order by “Murder Rate (per 100,000) (2019)”

              Do the states with less murders per 100,000 than New York have more strict gun rules? (In case you happen to know that)

                • Petter1@lemm.eeEnglish
                  1·
                  1 year ago

                  Everytownresearch.org looks like a really great resource! 😃thank you very much for that. So as it looks like, gun laws aren’t the only thing that influence gun violence. But if you ignore the statistical outliers then you see the correlation.

                  • 30mag@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    2·
                    1 year ago

                    Everytownresearch.org looks like a really great resource! 😃thank you very much for that.

                    Everytown is a gun control advocacy group. The purpose of the website is to persuade people that 1) gun control works, and 2) there is a need for more gun control. Keep that bias in mind, because their analysis of gun violence is one dimensional. That occasionally results in some conjectures about gun violence that don’t make sense.

                    Notable strong law states like Illinois and Maryland remain plagued with high gun violence in their biggest cities—in large part because they’re targeted by traffickers. Indeed an outsized share of likely trafficked crime guns recovered in Illinois begin their journey in states with weak laws. And Virginia, which had weak gun purchase laws until 2020, has long been the top supplier of crime guns into Maryland. At the other end of the scale, states like New Hampshire, Vermont, and Rhode Island have unusually low gun death rates compared with their somewhat weaker policies, in part because they are buffered by robust laws among other states in the region.

                    In the first scenario, strong gun laws don’t result in lower levels of gun violence because people can buy a gun in a neighboring state with weaker gun control laws. That explanation is plausible.

                    In the second scenario, strong gun laws in neighboring states result in lower levels of gun violence in the given states with weak gun laws because…?

        • Petter1@lemm.eeEnglish
          22·
          1 year ago

          Well that is one thing I’m not 100% sure, but NRA 100% does political pro gun ads on TV (and most likely precisely targeted in social media) I just assumed there are normal gun ads since, well, it’s America.

          https://youtu.be/ks2_wY7f-MM?si=SWzCvmHLKdys7jFt

          Just skipped through that and it seems most tv networks refuse gun ads, but it seems not illegal by law to show gun ads on tv.