The U.S. economy is booming. So why are tech companies laying off workers?::undefined

  • derf82@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Data can absolutely be misleading. Liars, damn liars, and statisticians, as they say. And trying to produce one number that somehow represents everyone will never work, whatever economists want to think.

    The fact is many of the super-poor are doing better because government benefits like social security are indexed to inflation, meaning they are actually keeping up.

    Personally, my real earnings are down over $10,000 a year. My whole industry has stagnant wages. Don’t piss on me and tell me it’s raining.

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      9 months ago

      At this point there are more people trying to reject data based arguments with that cliche than there are people making bogus cases according to it.

    • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      And trying to produce one number that somehow represents everyone will never work

      Well it’s a good thing no one is attempting that?

      Personally

      You’re an outlier. Understand that you’re not the center of the universe, please.

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        9 months ago

        Well it’s a good thing no one is attempting that?

        Oh, what do you call a statement like “The US economy is booming?”

        You’re an outlier. Understand that you’re not the center of the universe, please.

        Are you going to tell me I am the only one struggling and not seeing wage gains? Do you want to tell me my experience does not matter?

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            9 months ago

            Yes. You apparently do not. So long as some people do good, everyone else that is struggling can fuck themselves, it seems.

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              9 months ago

              So unless a policy helps literally everyone, you’re gonna say it’s not good enough?

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                9 months ago

                So as long as a policy helps some people, we don’t have to try and help more?

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                9 months ago

                Now, I’ve upvoted some of your comments here but I’m gonna stop you on this one. Yeah, the economy should support literally everyone. Yeah, there should be change as long as there’s any poverty. It’s called having a floor and basic human dignity. Does every single policy have to be aimed at the worst off? No. But you came dangerously close here to saying that it doesn’t matter if only some people are suffering.

                • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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                  9 months ago

                  Well that’s fucking dumb. The whole point of what I was saying is that this mythical “make everyone not poor” policy doesn’t exist. Different groups require different solutions, and some are more politically tenable than others, and some have unintended effects that result in other groups being worse off.

                  Demanding every policy help everyone and saying it’s useless if it doesn’t is more stupid than I know how to put into words.