We Asked A.I. to Create the Joker. It Generated a Copyrighted Image.::Artists and researchers are exposing copyrighted material hidden within A.I. tools, raising fresh legal questions.

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    9 months ago

    God I fucking hate this braindesd AI boogeyman nonsense.

    Yeah, no shit you ask the AI to create a picture of a specific actor from a specific movie, its going yo look like a still from that movie.

    Or if you ask it to create “an animated sponge wearing pants” it’s going to give you spongebob.

    You should think of these AIs as if you asking an artist freind of yours to draw a picture for you. So if you say “draw an Italian video games chsracter” then obviously they’re going to draw Mario.

    And also I want to point out they interview some professor of English for some reason, but they never interview, say, a professor of computer science and AI, because they don’t want people that actually know what they’re talking about giving logical answers, they want random bloggers making dumb tests and “”“exposing”“” AI and how it steals everything!!!1!!! Because that’s what gets clicks.

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      9 months ago

      They interviewed her because she wrote about generative ai experiments she conducted with Gary Marcus, an AI researcher who they quote earlier in the piece, specifically about AI’s regurgitation issue. They link to it in the article.

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      9 months ago

      All of this and also fuck copyright.

      Why does everyone suddenly care about copyright so much. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.

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        9 months ago

        It’s actually pretty concerning. A lot of the anti-AI arguments are really short-sighted. People want to make styles copyrightable. Could you imagine if Disney was allowed to claim ownership over anything that even kinda looked like their work?

        I feel like the protectionism of the artist community is a potential poison pill. That in the fight to protect themselves from corporations, they’re going to be motivated to expand copyright law, which ultimately gives more power to corporations.

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      9 months ago

      We asked this artist to draw the joker. The artist generated an copyrighted image. We ask the court to immediately confiscate his brain.

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      9 months ago

      I was thinking exactly this. If i asked an artist to draw an image of irom man, i would bet that they would draw him in a famous pose, and they would try to draw his suit accurately or make it resemble a scene from the movie.

      I would also bet that it would not be exact, line for line. Like they knew that there were buildings in the background. They knew his hand was up witht the light pointing at the viewer, they knew it was night time and they know what iron man looks like, maybe they used a few reference images to get the suit right but there would be enough differences that it wouldnt be exact. These images are slightly different than the movie stills and if made by a human they would look pretty similar to what the AI has done here. Especially if they were asked to draw a still from the movie like in this article.

      • Throw a Foxtrot@lemmynsfw.com
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        9 months ago

        The rules aren’t any different for AI. AI is not a legal entity, just like a pen and canvas are not. It is always about the person who makes money with facsimiles of copyrighted previous work.

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            9 months ago

            Again, that makes as much sense as holding Staedtler responsible because someone used their pencils to duplicate a copyrighted work.

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            9 months ago

            So do you want to shutdown Google because I can type “spongebob squarepants” into Google images and Google with give me an image of spongebob?

            Please put some thought into the implications of what you’re saying outside of AI before you make a knee-jerk reaction like that.

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                9 months ago

                It doesn’t matter if Google creates the images.

                It doesn’t matter if they “intend” to profit from illegal works.

                It doesn’t matter if they “give credit” (this is the one that’s the dumbest because it just reeks of ignorance, like thinking you can use whatever works you like as long as you put a credit to them in the description)

                Google showing you copywritten images when you search for them is not different than when an AI does it.

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                    9 months ago

                    Imagine getting this riled up over a stranger on lemmy thinking something different to you.

                    Maybe put the phone down, take a deep breath and go for a walk outside for a moment.