• Cyrus Draegur@lemm.ee
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    “UMMM what the fuck is that, anon?”

    “it’s a great open-source software called mind your own fucking business

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      “Software I’m used to is easier for me than software I have no experience with.”

      What a fantastic insight.

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        You would imagine this to be obvious, but people who are used to Photoshop or Reddit complain all the time that Gimp or Lemmy are not as intuitive, as the other comments fully demonstrate.

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        GIMP being free to just download from their site, and still being used far less (even by novices) than paid or pirated Photoshop really tells the whole story.

        The average lemmy user compared to the general public is just far more used to trading away quality to stay with Free and Open-Source Software, to the point of sometimes apparently being blind to the mainstream option’s appeal.

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            Intuitiveness is objective and measurable, and I’m very certain that Photoshop would demolish GIMP if a test was done.

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              “intuitiveness is objective and measurable” is such a hilarious thing to say. Like yes it’s possible to measure how quickly people can come to understand an app but to say that, therefore, we have an objective understanding of ‘intuitiveness’ and can say “Hamburger menu instead of kebab menu here??? That is O B J E C T I V E L Y unintuitive” is sooo fucking silly.

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          Something being free to download doesn’t help if the paid software is so ingrained into culture, both popular and professional, that it practically has a monopoly. If you want to get work as an artist working with other people, you’ll want to learn the industry standard, not a niche program.

          That’s all aside from whether gimp actually is or isn’t better, I just think the argument make no sense.

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      I am the same. I tried Photoshop and bazillion of tools didn’t help when making a simple picture, while GIMP could do that with relatively easier steps.

      Edit: grammar, apologies.

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        This seems true though, Gimp uses the same (fairly complex) tools for most thing Photoshop has an own tool for. Have to commit I’m not that experienced with PS though

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      There’s no “Shape” tool. You could just select a circular area in an empty layer and fill it though.

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      You can, it is very unintuitive though. You draw the shape using the eilpse tool and set a border for the selection.

      It’s not hard, but there is really no way to figure this out without ever looking for a tutorial.

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        It’s absolutely stupid design and more difficult than it needs to be.

        I’ll say it - Photoshop is infinitely more intuitive than gimp for the average person. Sure, if you are fucking determined, I’m sure you can figure it out eventually. You can even make it work. But if you say it is easier than Photoshop, you are wrong.

        I love FOSS stuff but way too many people are delusional about the pros and cons of it. There are absolutely cons.

        I stand with op.

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          I don’t believe that you can even figure out half of the things yourself if you are determined. There is no way you can use it without looking up tutorials for even basic things.

          I fully agree in case my precious comment wasn’t clear. It is a mess!

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      GIMP 2 is utter dogshit in terms of user experience.

      GIMP 3, the version that is supposed to make everything easier, hasn’t been released yet. ^(it’s been years and I have given up hoping)

      The situation sucks, but there aren’t that many developers working on GIMP in the first place. Certainly not as many as Photoshop.

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      Gimp logic is a bit different from whatever logic a regular user is used to. It’s easy to work with once you familiarize yourself with it, but if your intuition is trained on Windows products, you will need to readjust.

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      It’s like a traditional martial art, you must first master arbitrarily complicated forms before, maybe, being able to make something useful of it it in ten years.

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        Because creative FOSS is usually terrible, their methods demolish the flow of an average creative worker with constant "No, it doesn’t work like that "-type interruptions.

        Intuitive functionality is never a priority and never done right. If anything it seems to be viewed as sacriliege to sacrifice clean and simple code for the base instincts of an ignorant user.

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          I remember finding some comments from people being pissed that Blender got an Undo function. Felt like I was living in a bizarro world.

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          Eh? More of a GIMP-specific issue. Krita, Kdenlive, and Inkscape for example are all fantastic, not to mention Blender

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            Krita, fantastic? That comment might’ve convinced someone who hasn’t tried it. It does not convince me.

            The fact that you mention “Kdenlive” and Inkscape along with Krita makes me expect the two others to be absolute dogshit.

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    Ellipse select tool (E) with shift (and optionally ctrl) pressed after starting the drag -> Edit menu -> Stroke Selection

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        Until recently their Creative Cloud subscription was $12. It includes Photoshop, 1TB cloud storage, Light room and a couple of smaller tools aimed at photographers. But it got pushed up to $20 because of inflation. My yearly subscription renewed a couple of months ago for the old price, so I’m lucky for now.

        • 🦄🦄🦄@feddit.de
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          But it got pushed up to $20 because of inflation.

          please stop propagating this bullshit. It got pushed because of greed.