• Nawor3565@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1 year ago

    Not to be a downer but… how did people not anticipate this happening? Google is likely going to do everything they can to shut down non-official clients like Piped, since they’re sidestepping all of YouTube’s revenue streams. Hopefully they don’t take the nuclear option and somehow lock down the API and make it much harder to download videos via tools like yt-dlp.

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      1 year ago

      Well, if they implement their web integrity DRM thingy in Chrome and Youtube then that will prevent anything that’s not a real approved browser from accessing the website, and with that the video streams. Not only Piped/Newpipe, but anything automated trying to access any website will be automatically locked out unless the website approves of it. New search engine bot? Archiving crawlers? Any type of third party program that accesses some website’s content without approval? Dead.

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      Yeah we’re basically hurting their revenue by using Piped and other ways to bypass Google’s ads. They wouldn’t be profitable if everyone stopped watching those ads

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          Yeah, they should provide thousands of gigiabits of video streaming to everyone for free. It’s our right!

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              You know they wouldn’t get paid if nobody watched the ads. And if they didn’t get paid they wouldn’t have any reason to pay to run the site. Explaining that a corporation will not run a site like YouTube for free (which it wouldn’t even be, it costs a lot of money to run) if they weren’t getting paid. Quit attacking other users simply for pointing out facts. It’s beneath you (I think)

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                  I never said that Google is on the verge of collapse, nor did I defend them. I merely stated that Google is a corporation, driven by profit, and expecting Google to act in the interest of anything but their own profits is a fool’s fantasy. Quit putting words in people’s mouths. It’s unbecoming of anyone that wants to have a legitimate discussion and it’s just toxic.

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                Ah yes, because humans never want to share information, or show others something they’ve achieved or created. The only possible motivation could be money.

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                  That’s not what I’m saying, but these people choose to upload their content to YouTube specifically, so what’s your point?

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                1 year ago

                As a contributor who doesn’t monetize videos, you don’t speak for everyone.

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      I’m not going to be popular saying this but how is the service supposed to survive without a revenue stream? It takes a shit ton of bandwidth and storage to keep YouTube running, that ain’t free.

      I get that the ads are incredibly annoying but if you truly watch as much YouTube as some people in this thread are claiming, maybe it’s worth paying for it? I bit the bullet and for basically the price of my cancelled Spotify subscription I now have no ads in YT and an okay streaming service with yt music.

      Of course Google could do things better. And actually I think it would be important to have a competitor. But I wouldn’t expect that one to be free either.

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        This is c/privacy. Are you really advocating for pouring money on the company (Google) that’s doing everything it can to get to know everyone and use the information for showing deceiving ads, among other things? Or the company that supports false political propaganda? (In the form of paid advertisements). Support your creators, thats a very good thing, but for the love of god please do not fund this data mining machine.

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          I really am! If they don’t get money, and they don’t get data, and they (obviously) don’t get donations, how are they supposed to run the service? Out of the goodness of their hearts?

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            They get enough money already. They are even spending on military tech research (google ventures), lobbying, and of course on their investors who have an unfulfillable hunger for money.

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      It amazes me how entitled these Internet hippies are nowadays. You can’t expect someone to provide such a huge service for free. If you don’t like ads, pay for it. It’s like $5 per month when you pay as a group…

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        I would pay if

        1. Google promised not collect any data but now you would pay and have your data collected.

        2. I just want load my subscription feed and they are all there not hidden away.

        3. Hid shorts or have them on separate tab.

        4. Bonus would be if related videos where acutely related videos in time span. Not the mess they are now.

        Also why would I have to pay YouTube music? I don’t want that.

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        I’d rather Youtube and Google itself be split up under anti-trust laws. I don’t want them to exist.

        I’d rather people build smaller video websites for niche subjects so the internet is decentralized to the extent it was when it first started.

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            Actually they are, because Google controls 90% of the internet, most cell phones while Apple controls the rest and does the same, meaning we consumers don’t get a choice.

            We’re just slaves.

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              Google controls 90% of the internet

              Google doesn’t control shit, and you’re referring to the web, not the internet. Nobody forces you to use YouTube, Maps or their search engine. The websites you visit choose to incorporate Google analytics and ads, which you can easily block if you feel enslaved in that sense.

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    If you are using LibreTube this is fixable by disabling piped proxies in the setting. HOWEVER do be warned that Youtube will know your IP, so you should only really do this while using a VPN service.

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    I watch more YouTube than I do television these days.

    As of now, I’m able to watch it ad free on both Brave and Firefox. I don’t have revanced as I’m more or less too technically stupid to do it.

    If it becomes impossible to watch YouTube, I’ll walk away from it just like I did cable in 2009 and Netflix in 2023.

    I haven’t sailed the high seas since the eighties, and I’d honestly prefer not to, but you gotta make a product that doesn’t consistently try to piss me off.

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      It’s not trying to piss you off, it’s trying to make money, as it should. Do you have any idea how much money it costs to run the infrastructure behind YouTube? Neither do I, because it’s unfathomable.

      I pay for YouTube Premium along with 5 friends. It’s $5 per month per person. Beats any streaming service by miles.

      I do, however pirate all my movies (except for the occasional cinema visit) and TV shows.

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    They are definitely in a crackdown phase. Some revanced versions stopped working just yesterday, the yt-dlp stuff, the ad block block…

    The best hope would be to get off of YouTube but that’s not happening any time soon given how expensive bandwidth is.