because DPRK is an existing socialist state

It’s an ideological competition between different ways of organizing society. We have a western model of capitalist organization and the socialist model advanced by China. The western model is visibly failing in every regard right now, so there is every reason to expect that more and more countries will look to Chinese model as a result.

A socialist revolution cannot magically abolish relations that have been internalized by a society born out of capitalism. The notion that you can just flip a switch and transition from one type of society to another is precisely what underpins anarchist achievements to date.

A Commune, in Marxist-Leninist theory, is a revolutionary political-economic structure where the proletariat collectively owns and democratically controls the means of production, abolishing capitalist hierarchies and bourgeois state machinery. It is rooted in the analysis of the Paris Commune of 1871 by Marx and Engels who saw it as a prototype of proletarian dictatorship. The key aspect of a commune is that it embodies direct workers’ democracy, dismantling the separation between state and society. Lenin further expanded this as a transitional framework where a decentralized network of soviets composed of laborers self-govern, eroding class distinctions and advancing toward a stateless, classless communism.

The distinction between Marxists and the anarchists is this: (1) The former, while aiming at the complete abolition of the state, recognize that this aim can only be achieved after classes have been abolished by the socialist revolution, as the result of the establishment of socialism, which leads to the withering away of the state. The latter want to abolish the state completely overnight, not understanding the conditions under which the state can be abolished. (2) The former recognize that after the proletariat has won political power it must completely destroy the old state machine and replace it by a new one consisting of an organization of the armed workers, after the type of the Commune. The latter, while insisting on the destruction of the state machine, have a very vague idea of what the proletariat will put in its place and how it will use its revolutionary power. The anarchists even deny that the revolutionary proletariat should use the state power, they reject its revolutionary dictatorship. (3) The former demand that the proletariat be trained for revolution by utilizing the present state. The anarchists reject this.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/ch06.htm

Welcome to the real world ignoramus.

90% of families in the country own their home giving China one of the highest home ownership rates in the world. What’s more is that 80% of these homes are owned outright, without mortgages or any other leans. https://www.forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2016/03/30/how-people-in-china-afford-their-outrageously-expensive-homes

Chinese household savings hit another record high in 2024 https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-today-dow-jones-bank-earnings-01-12-2024/card/chinese-household-savings-hit-another-record-high-xqyky00IsIe357rtJb4j

Social mobility in China being far better than in the US https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/18/world/asia/china-social-mobility.html

The typical Chinese adult is now richer than the typical European adult https://www.businessinsider.com/typical-chinese-adult-now-richer-than-europeans-wealth-report-finds-2022-9

The real (inflation-adjusted) incomes of the poorest half of the Chinese population increased by more than four hundred percent from 1978 to 2015, while real incomes of the poorest half of the US population actually declined during the same time period. https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w23119/w23119.pdf

From 1978 to 2000, the number of people in China living on under $1/day fell by 300 million, reversing a global trend of rising poverty that had lasted half a century (i.e. if China were excluded, the world’s total poverty population would have risen) https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/China’s-Economic-Growth-and-Poverty-Reduction-Angang-Linlin/c883fc7496aa1b920b05dc2546b880f54b9c77a4

From 2010 to 2019 (the most recent period for which uninterrupted data is available), the income of the poorest 20% in China increased even as a share of total income. https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SI.DST.FRST.20?end=2019&amp%3Blocations=CN&amp%3Bstart=2008

👆 a great example of a self referential comment

yes

You don’t have to prove them since you can just try things and see what the results are. The paper acts as a solid basis of an approach that’s known to work.

I’ve been ollama, it can just pull striaght from the huggingface url

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/

or more succinctly

yeah

I’m guessing single quotes, since a single double quote isn’t valid syntax.

yup

it’s not B

The working solution is Marxism, that’s the antidote to capitalism and the ideologies that prop it up.

I agree with that, Liberalism as an ideology exists to justify capitalist relations and protect property rights. The mistake people make is in thinking that Liberalism is somehow progressive to begin with.

In practice, it’s like a coin with two very different sides. On one face, you’ve got political liberalism that’s all about individual freedoms, fair elections, and human rights. This is the feel-good stuff that’s used to market Liberalism and make it seem universally appealing.

But flip that coin over and you get economic liberalism, which is really just capitalism wearing a fancy philosophical mask. This side worships markets, treats private property as sacred, and assumes wealth accumulation is basically a human right. Since property rights are seen as the foundation of all other freedoms, the system effectively locks in wealth inequality by making redistribution seem like theft.

That’s why liberals lose their minds whenever governments impinge on the rights of the rich or regulate corporations. In their worldview, any limit on property rights is a threat to freedom itself.

I thought this was a great take on the whole thing

https://orgrad.wordpress.com/articles/liberalism-the-two-faced-tyranny-of-wealth/

oh they are https://www.reuters.com/technology/china-south-korea-taiwan-spend-most-chip-equipment-2025-2027-industry-body-says-2024-09-26/